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[smartelephant]

NJAowner, thank you for your response. I thought it was insightful. Not sure what Dooker read, but I didn't sense any arrogance in your reply. One last thing to follow up on. Those people who bought into the industry around the 06, 07 timeframe who also had to flee come the fall of 08, do you see them coming back? Obviously you don't know everyone's personal financial situation, but do you think these people were too "paper wealthy" vs actual asset backed wealth and that they may need some kind of "bubble" to get back in? In other words, going forward who are the new crop of owners and what will it take to convience them to buy in?

 

[NJAowner]

To start this whole thread off with "In my opinion":

Many that I know of who bouht in 2006-2008 bought multiple shares -- 100+ hours. That is expensive. They loved the idea of just hopping on the jet and going to a meeting and then off to play golf or Fla. on the weekend. Many of those owners have cutr back to 50 hours.

I think that many of the personal travelers who have the $$ and inclination are already on board. As the airlines get worse, I think a big area for growth is the private business owner (who does not have to answer to other shareholders) who can still be educated on how private aviation can make his business better and more profitable while increasing his or her quality of life.

 

[Trash8Mofo]

And as for your comment, flexwife, that I have a "chip on my shoulder," well, yeah I do. So should everyone who works for a paycheck and has witnessed the massive deregulatory wealth reallocation experiment this country has undertaken over the last thirty years. The U.S. is now little more than a hollowed out shell of what it once was. To paraphrase Warren Buffet, the rich have been on a space ship, while the middle class has been on a treadmill. And the fact that our industry even exists doesn't necessarily bode well for our children's future.

This "cadre of people" we fly around are the winners. We're the losers. Believe me, if I could find another job right now doing anything else that would allow me to support my family, I would leave this racket in a heartbeat.

That it may be. But the fault lays with the army of lobbyists, and Wall-street's all in the name of bottom-line profit pressure on companies. Capitalism is not without it's faults. Fair competition is good. Some confused that with Greed is good (too much Al Pachino).

As far as flying wealthy people goes, IMHO it's just service I provide. There are motel 6s and there are 4 seasons (interestingly both have #s in their names). I don't see how working for one company is more respectable than the other.

 

[bunman45]

That it may be. But the fault lays with the army of lobbyists, and Wall-street's all in the name of bottom-line profit pressure on companies. Capitalism is not without it's faults. Fair competition is good. Some confused that with Greed is good (too much Al Pachino).

As far as flying wealthy people goes, IMHO it's just service I provide. There are motel 6s and there are 4 seasons (interestingly both have #s in their names). I don't see how working for one company is more respectable than the other.

I never had any pubes on my bathroom ceiling at the four seasons. I can't say the same about motel 6.

 

[gunfyter]

I've never been to a Four Seasons.:crying:

 

[jonjuan]

I never had any pubes on my bathroom ceiling at the four seasons. I can't say the same about motel 6.

LOL.........Just reminded me to never look up in a motel room.

 

[Trash8Mofo]

I never had any pubes on my bathroom ceiling at the four seasons. I can't say the same about motel 6.

that's true...haha, too funny.

 

[Nolife]

Greed is good (too much Al Pachino)/QUOTE]

"Greed is good" Gordon Gecko, Wall Street

 

[Myster79]

I never had any pubes on my bathroom ceiling at the four seasons. I can't say the same about motel 6.

I looked up once and had what appeared to be a 3" icicle right above my pillow... Needless to say it wasn't an icicle.

 

[Hung Start]

I looked up once and had what appeared to be a 3" icicle right above my pillow... Needless to say it wasn't an icicle.

I'll sleep much better tonight having read that.

AND I'M AT HOME!!!!

Hung