FlexJet - Time for a Union

[Flyingdog1]

Flexjet will have it's union. The short version is that if this passes, the NLRB will only need 51% for a union to be voted in. The company and newly voted in union have 90 days to hammer out the first contract. If no contract after 90 days, then an arbitrator comes in and will settle it within I believe 45 days. Both sides will be bound by the contract for 2 years. It is in sub committe right now.



Here is the link: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1409[/quote

The FLOPS guys should read this. Maybe they'll get a contract, maybe their lawyers missed it.

 

[CE750Driver]

steelersrule say what?

We just got a raise, anyone else got one? .... crikets .... is all I hear. Over my career here, I've made more than any NJ pilot in my seniority. Look, I'm not against a union at Flex; I just don't care to hear from NJW; who doesn't have a dang thing to do with Flex. She fought her fight, let it be. I've told her where she could dance in the past, to no avail, and don't have a problem doing it again.

Uh, okay, lets post our W2s from either your employer or mine over the last 7 years. Who made the most money?

I would like to see your numbers to prove your statements. Can you provide them? Or are you just talking out your azz?:blush:

BTW, you did furlough, then give raises. Right?

Messed up.

 

[FastJP4]

steelersrule say what?

We just got a raise, anyone else got one? .... crikets .... is all I hear. Over my career here, I've made more than any NJ pilot in my senoirity. Look, I'm not against a union at Flex; I just don't care to hear from NJW; who doesn't have a dang thing to do with Flex. She fought her fight, let it be. I've told her where she could dance in the past, to no avail, and don't have a problem doing it again.

You just got a raise? Actually you still are losing. You lost what, one or two days per bid period. Your raise still keeps you well below what a same year pilot at NJ makes. Did you also factor in NJ's paid for health care - while a good part of your healthcare you are paying out of your check? Did you bother to think of QOL issues where Flex is sorely at the back of the pack? Or maybe consider the 85 Flex pilots out on the street? Didn't think so. Typical attitude from a "me" only pilot group, while NJ's enjoy's a "we" pilot group.

A "we" pilot group would be pissed to see raises after seeing 20% of their brothers and sisters thrown out on the street.

A "me" pilot group would tout their "raise" without a second thought to their fellow pilots. And sad thing is your touting it - and didn't even get a raise.

No doubt your one of the a$$holes out there scrambling for OT with furloughed folks on the street.

Pathetic

 

[Ace75]

You just got a raise? Actually you still are losing. You lost what, one or two days per bid period. Your raise still keeps you well below what a same year pilot at NJ makes. Did you also factor in NJ's paid for health care - while a good part of your healthcare you are paying out of your check? Did you bother to think of QOL issues where Flex is sorely at the back of the pack? Or maybe consider the 85 Flex pilots out on the street? Didn't think so. Typical attitude from a "me" only pilot group, while NJ's enjoy's a "we" pilot group.

A "we" pilot group would be pissed to see raises after seeing 20% of their brothers and sisters thrown out on the street.

A "me" pilot group would tout their "raise" without a second thought to their fellow pilots. And sad thing is your touting it - and didn't even get a raise.

No doubt your one of the a$$holes out there scrambling for OT with furloughed folks on the street.

Pathetic

+1

now, whats this about not giving hotels in domiciles? what are you supposed to drive home every time you overnight at base? that will work real well for those guys living in Orlando and based in FLL, or try driving to PA from HPN and make your 90 minute call out. How do you guys feel about sharing a couch in the crew room overnight with me and my partner, btw i snore real loud...

 

[steelersrule74]

steelersrule say what?

We just got a raise, anyone else got one? .... crikets .... is all I hear. Over my career here, I've made more than any NJ pilot in my senoirity. Look, I'm not against a union at Flex; I just don't care to hear from NJW; who doesn't have a dang thing to do with Flex. She fought her fight, let it be. I've told her where she could dance in the past, to no avail, and don't have a problem doing it again.

for some reason I suspect our view of any 'raise' may be different. nevertheless it's always been true that in a non-union shop there are a handful of folks that can make out quite nicely - far better in fact than if a union was there. the problem a company will have is that it often allows a large gap between those that are rewarded and those that are crapped on. Thus, you get the union drive.

as for NJW, you have exercised your option to place her on ignore. If you want to gloat about it though then it's just my fun little way of giving some business right back at ya by quoting her. of course you can put me on ignore but eventually you'll find yourself unable to read many posts.

 

[unclepetey]

steelersrule say what?

We just got a raise, anyone else got one? .... crikets .... is all I hear. Over my career here, I've made more than any NJ pilot in my senoirity. Look, I'm not against a union at Flex; I just don't care to hear from NJW; who doesn't have a dang thing to do with Flex. She fought her fight, let it be. I've told her where she could dance in the past, to no avail, and don't have a problem doing it again.

You think you got a raise? Amazing. Management must be loving morons like you.

 

[ArtVandalay]

steelersrule say what?

We just got a raise, anyone else got one? .... crikets .... is all I hear. Over my career here, I've made more than any NJ pilot in my senoirity. Look, I'm not against a union at Flex; I just don't care to hear from NJW; who doesn't have a dang thing to do with Flex. She fought her fight, let it be. I've told her where she could dance in the past, to no avail, and don't have a problem doing it again.

Just got a raise huh? You just lost 2 days of pay out of 16 and they give you back 4% and that is a raise? You are a moron.

 

[Necromonger]

FlyDog

steelersrule say what?

We just got a raise, anyone else got one? .... crikets .... is all I hear. Over my career here, I've made more than any NJ pilot in my senoirity. Look, I'm not against a union at Flex; I just don't care to hear from NJW; who doesn't have a dang thing to do with Flex. She fought her fight, let it be. I've told her where she could dance in the past, to no avail, and don't have a problem doing it again.

.......... Dumba$$

 

[jetmaster727]

Classic case of koolaid-itis !!

 

[Necromonger]

Oooppps... Sorry Flyin' Dawg.

Okay, I didn't read your entire post. Just read the part about the raise, and flew off the handle. Now, I see who that post was aimed at.

I do have a problem, though. We can not look at this as a raise.
-Fact.. They raised our daily rate by 4%.
"Yeah, we got a pay raise," say those who drink the Koolaide being served at the meetings.

-Fact.. In the REAL world... ALL Flexjet pilots will make LESS money this year than they did last year.

More and more policy changes are happening. We still have NO say. Well, I guess we can say what we have been forced to say for years here... "Thank you, sir... May I have another!".. as we grab our ankles and take it up the______ !

Saying that we got a pay raise, in a way, disrespects the 85 pilots we had to put on the street. The LAST thing they want to read up here is that we are whining about a pay raise. But, that just isn't the full truth.

I am taking a 13% pay cut this year at flex. Do the math. We are ALL taking pay cuts.


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