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Flexjet Scamagement Redefines Lying

rettofly

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Six months to get a private? Seems rather long.

Judging from the language and syntax, it would take a trip to Pakistan or Bangladesh to work with this guy.
 

doh

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Judging from the language and syntax, it would take a trip to Pakistan or Bangladesh to work with this guy.

There is also that.
 

GlorifiedCabbie

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Winner winner chicken dinner.

Yet another card played in his union busting playbook. He (through his management stooges) is attempting to force a mediocre outcome from arbitration with the argument everything can be shored up and improved during section 6; all the while knowing this union will be voted out/decertified with anything less than across the board broad improvements.

I certainly hope the union is able to help the arbitrator understand any attempts he thinks he is making toward "reason" and "stability" toward the "goal" of negotiating improvements during section 6 is a play right from Ricci's own union busting schema. I do not think it is an overstatement to say we need to get this arbritrator to understand he holds the power to either redefine aviation unions everywhere (by doing too little) or stabilize our sector of the industry for years to come by giving us the contract we deserve now. Right freaking now.

Otherwise, this whole thing is farce and a big flipping joke. And pilots will serve as both the punchline and the punch bag.


Once again you were right. Talk from the office is "for us to be able to afford the PIC pay, the SIC pay raise has to be little or nothing." Right from Tricky Ricci's playbook. Have a small percentage of highly paid individuals, and under compensate the "trapped employees" and the low time pilots that just want to build time and move on. Unfortunately, that makes a lot of us expendable.
 

Imissmypilot

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Once again you were right. Talk from the office is "for us to be able to afford the PIC pay, the SIC pay raise has to be little or nothing." Right from Tricky Ricci's playbook. Have a small percentage of highly paid individuals, and under compensate the "trapped employees" and the low time pilots that just want to build time and move on. Unfortunately, that makes a lot of us expendable.

Of course I'm right. :)

Here's the thing: add up the total compensation awarded to One Sky pilots over the past year and divide by the number of pilots. What you get is roughly NJA averages if you extrapolate based on some rough guesses across the board. I don't have access to that information but I used very conservative numbers, seat placements etc...

Don't trust me: run the numbers yourself. If you're on the PNC and you have the numbers, definitely do it.

Ricci can afford to pay us industry high salary. It will just mean those precious Red Label thieves won't be able to continue doing that at the expense of others.

I certainly hope the arbritrator understands Ricci likes to talk out of both sides of his ass. Either the program is so successful it is the new model for fractional so a divided list is a moot point or business is bad so he doesn't have the money to pay more.

The truth us in between: there is no huge or sustainable market for Red Label but we have plenty of money to supply a fair increase.

However not for long. If recent experience and owner conversations have proven anything to me, people are starting to notice the degradation of this company and we will start losing owners soon if we don't pivot.

Downside we will furlough if we get too greedy before we can recover the decimation of the last 3 years of union busting b!tch slapping, Upside is NJA will be hiring. :)

Haven't I said before I don't know a single pilot who hasn't updated their resume lately, including our own union leadership? Ricci is dumber than $hit to risk this going to an arbritrator. He could lose everything in one day if we don't get good enough. The only ones who will stay will be the crotchety old windbags with defibrillator watches or hour farmers.

Owners are watching. They will leave too if they see a pilot exodus. They know we are the canary in the coal mine.

Ricci is risking it all on dumb hatred. Emperors better than him have gambled and lost with similar attitudes. I hope I'm wrong for my sake but geez wouldn't it be sweet justice to be on a cot next to him at the homeless shelter?
 
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doh

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One arbitration session to go. We will know soon.
 

GlorifiedCabbie

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One thing the arbitrator can't fix, is the toxic environment in CGF. Not only do the customer service reps not keep the passengers informed, they are back to their lying ways and blaming the pilots again. And that brings me to the next point. Red Label pilots are continuing to steal catering. When I talked to the other pilot, he said he thought they were his crew meals. I didn't get a response when I asked him why did he take the champagne then? Pathetic.
 

Brit

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Get your resume ready boys and girls. The S&!T storm officially hits tomorrow.
 

AftCG182

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One arbitration session to go. We will know soon.

So, is it after this final arbitration that the 30-day cooling off period starts? We at TMC are just a few steps behind you guys and I'm interested to see how this plays out...
 

AftCG182

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So, is it after this final arbitration that the 30-day cooling off period starts? We at TMC are just a few steps behind you guys and I'm interested to see how this plays out...


Disregard. Someone was nice enough to send me a Collective Bargaining Process under the RLA flow-chart. Now, I've got the big picture.

Good luck guys!
 

OldCrow

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Get your resume ready boys and girls. The S&!T storm officially hits tomorrow.

Other than flying 6 legs, a 10/24 warning.....no word of any S&!T stoms. You getting you information from the Washington Post?
 
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