FlexJet / Flight Options / SkyJet

[ThePilotsFriend]

Well it's better news than not keeping any. Besides with a sustainable business model, which at this time Flexjet does not have, hence putting it in a bargain buy opportunity for Ken, there will actually be a reality of growth which over time could bring back more Flex pilots.

 

[ThePilotsFriend]

If ken had not stepped in and secured Flexjet it was going to be bad news, extremely bad news for all of the Flex pilots. This situation beats the alternative that was headed down the track with the old Flexjet ownership.

 

[Club ORD FO]

I'm confused about what your motives are (you are, after all, a new user as of just now). You're implying that the options pilots should vote non union because they will see growth, but you've just told every flex pilot to vote pro union because our jobs are in danger.

And I'm not buying that were headed for bad news. We have long been operationally profitable (while options has not been) and we've had nothing but increasing numbers recently.

 

[jetwash]

You call keeping 150 of the 350 flex pilots "good news"?

Don't fall for the troll, its after midnight and someone had a few too many.

 

[ThePilotsFriend]

You really think that Options has not been profitable? We had the ability to buy Flex. You really think Flex would tell the truth about being on there way out?

 

[Club ORD FO]

You really think that Options has not been profitable? We had the ability to buy Flex. You really think Flex would tell the truth about being on there way out?

Ugh. Options did not buy flex. Go read a press release and try again

 

[ThePilotsFriend]

DAC / One Sky
But trust me Ricci is at the top and Options is his baby, just ask anyone.
Guess you also believe everything that you read as we'll.

 

[Club ORD FO]

If you really are buddies with KR I would assume you know that not all the money came from DAC and that other investors are involved. But whatever, that's not important. Let me just sum up what you've told us:

1. You are calling KR (your friend) a liar because he told the flex employees that we will not see any more layoffs, and he has told us that we are going to grow and that good things are coming. However, you say we will see layoffs as our flying is transferred after the union is voted out.

2. You are therefor encouraging me and all flexjet pilots to vote pro-union because our jobs are in danger.

3. I should not believe everything I read.

Ok, thanks. I'll take your advice into consideration.

 

[X-rated]

Right... I believe Ricci's best bud joined FI and on his first post gave away all of Ken's diabolical plans. He says Ken's number one priority is getting rid of the union, and then he passes on information, that if taken seriously, would ensure that never happens. Ahem, Bull Siht! Weird that he happened to post it in an emotional thread where the FO pilots are trying to convince the Flex pilots to vote to keep the IBT. But, that's probably just a coincidence.

I guess Management isn't the only group that knows how to spread Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It's utterly and completely Disgraceful! Somebody needs to be taken out behind the woodshed for that little gem. It will be telling to see who does and doesn't have the class to denounce such tactics.

 

[gret]

If you really are buddies with KR I would assume you know that not all the money came from DAC and that other investors are involved. But whatever, that's not important. Let me just sum up what you've told us:

1. You are calling KR (your friend) a liar because he told the flex employees that we will not see any more layoffs, and he has told us that we are going to grow and that good things are coming. However, you say we will see layoffs as our flying is transferred after the union is voted out.

2. You are therefor encouraging me and all flexjet pilots to vote pro-union because our jobs are in danger.

3. I should not believe everything I read.

Ok, thanks. I'll take your advice into consideration.

You're dead right...something is very wrong here...and simply not believable in any way, shape, or form.

Somebody must think that a lot of others are really stupid.

 

[gret]

Right... I believe Ricci's best bud joined FI and on his first post gave away all of Ken's diabolical plans. He says Ken's number one priority is getting rid of the union, and then he passes on information, that if taken seriously, would ensure that never happens. Ahem, Bull Siht! Weird that he happened to post it in an emotional thread where the FO pilots are trying to convince the Flex pilots to vote to keep the IBT. But, that's probably just a coincidence.

I guess Management isn't the only group that knows how to spread Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It's utterly and completely Disgraceful! Somebody needs to be taken out behind the woodshed for that little gem. It will be telling to see who does and doesn't have the class to denounce such tactics.

The guy's a clown...a friend, or simply a business associate, would never go on a public message board and talk out of school....it is also doubtful than any CEO is going to discuss such matters with anyone, let alone someone who doesn't have skin in the game.

What's in it for the person who did the post...it would seem nothing other than to secure the union's ability to remain in place.

He can't even spell Ricci name right.

 

[el raton]

You really think that Options has not been profitable? We had the ability to buy Flex. You really think Flex would tell the truth about being on there way out?

"We"? You're an employee of dac?

 

[Frac Cap]

Well, in my opinion he could be a recently fired right hand man with the initials of C H. He was a very well respected top manager and one of K R's friends. He had the most integrity of them all and and the respect of the entire pilot group. That may have been his downfall because from what I heard he was let go because he was not onboard for some issues that would have compromised his moral integrity. He was very open with issues that effected the pilots when we were to talk to him one on one. I assume he still has our best interests at heart and wants to reassure us. He is a straight shooter and was the only one that always kept an open dialogue going with the pilot group without any BS. Maybe this is his way of trying to set things straight.

 

[squawk]

The guy's a clown...a friend, or simply a business associate, would never go on a public message board and talk out of school....it is also doubtful than any CEO is going to discuss such matters with anyone, let alone someone who doesn't have skin in the game.

What's in it for the person who did the post...it would seem nothing other than to secure the union's ability to remain in place.

He can't even spell Ricci name right.

KR is speaking with FJ crews as well, and is divulging info that is just as astonishing. After hearing the content of these conversations, I do not doubt that KR may have said that. Know this, he is saying the same type of things to FJ pilots, but usually how FO is going to fold and the flying turned over to FJ. What are we supposed to think about this type of leadership? We are a group of professionals who are trying to make an honest living for our families. If the tone and attitude in these threads is any clue, the divisive gossip and rumors seem to be working. As a countermeasure, I think we should be thinking in terms of the one thing we have in common and try to stand together.

 

[el raton]

Sounds like KR needs to direct more of his efforts in selling shares of aircraft. That will take care of the pay, qol and integration.

Besides, this discussion may be all for naught because of that faint sucking sound that's getting louder. That sound is the airlines who are going to suck any warm blooded pilot under the age of 50 into their realm of flying.

How will uncle KR deal with this?