Flex Schedule

[bailey3083]

Well, if you take the min days worked at FJ as quoted on a previous post (that would be 195 days) and compare it to NJAs schedule, of 175 days... ya get to work 20 more days a year. Almost like another month of work.

The above is not counting holidays off, but includes 2 weeks off (14 days) for vacation.

Flex has always screwed the pilots with the 28 day month

I dont do bad at all..Without trying I usually get 14-15 days off a month. But these last few months I have been able to increase my work days with just the same amount of ease.
I know you think we Flex guys are low lifes compared to you high and might NJA guys but in reality this is a very good company to work for so I ask unless you have actual proof please respect us like we respect you.

Bailey

 

[bailey3083]

I have to raise the BS flag on the lav service. You will be an FO for a long time. Everytime that emergency exit door is raised I'll be thinking of you.

The Lear 60 was designed with an ingenius Lav. The fitting that attaches to the FBO Lav cart is much smaller than standard. (The drain hole is smaller than the diameter of a quarter.) Each LR 60 has a tool box with an adapter that must be attached between the aircraft receptacle and the FBO lav cart. When the lineman drains the lav, all the liquid flows out and a grinder purifies the solid matter. Well that is the way it supposed to work. Normally all the liquid drains out and the solid matter is stuck in the bottom with the grinder grinding away at air. Solution, add more water, then more water, then more water. Finally reach in the closet and get a coat hanger and chop that mother up.
Chopping up turds of the rich and famous. What a life!

Lav is not bad at all on the 60 and if you do get a big log the easiest thing is to put alittle blue juice in there and it melts away quickly.

Bailey

 

[Semore Butts]

Your kidding right?

The 60 LAv was a pain. I remember the 45 guys laughing at me when they saw that hatch open!

Blue water dissolving it? How long did you leave it in there??? Whew!!

Flex had a lot of great people working there when I was there.

 

[doh]

I have to raise the BS flag on the lav service. You will be an FO for a long time. Everytime that emergency exit door is raised I'll be thinking of you.

The Lear 60 was designed with an ingenius Lav. The fitting that attaches to the FBO Lav cart is much smaller than standard. (The drain hole is smaller than the diameter of a quarter.) Each LR 60 has a tool box with an adapter that must be attached between the aircraft receptacle and the FBO lav cart. When the lineman drains the lav, all the liquid flows out and a grinder purifies the solid matter. Well that is the way it supposed to work. Normally all the liquid drains out and the solid matter is stuck in the bottom with the grinder grinding away at air. Solution, add more water, then more water, then more water. Finally reach in the closet and get a coat hanger and chop that mother up.
Chopping up turds of the rich and famous. What a life!

I don't know, maybe it will get worse. I have had no problems so far, and that was what I was commenting on.:beer:

 

[bailey3083]

The 60 LAv was a pain. I remember the 45 guys laughing at me when they saw that hatch open!

Blue water dissolving it? How long did you leave it in there??? Whew!!

Flex had a lot of great people working there when I was there.

Usually takes about 20 minutes to disolve.

 

[learflyer]

I have to raise the BS flag on the lav service. You will be an FO for a long time. Everytime that emergency exit door is raised I'll be thinking of you.

The Lear 60 was designed with an ingenius Lav. The fitting that attaches to the FBO Lav cart is much smaller than standard. (The drain hole is smaller than the diameter of a quarter.) Each LR 60 has a tool box with an adapter that must be attached between the aircraft receptacle and the FBO lav cart. When the lineman drains the lav, all the liquid flows out and a grinder purifies the solid matter. Well that is the way it supposed to work. Normally all the liquid drains out and the solid matter is stuck in the bottom with the grinder grinding away at air. Solution, add more water, then more water, then more water. Finally reach in the closet and get a coat hanger and chop that mother up.
Chopping up turds of the rich and famous. What a life!

Don't you guys have those orange INOP stickers? You don't want someone going potty, slap er' on!:nuts:

 

[doh]

Don't you guys have those orange INOP stickers? You don't want someone going potty, slap er' on!:nuts:

Oh, yer goin' straight to customer service training fer that one!!

 

[learflyer]

Customer service takes a back seat when theres airlines to catch! RElax, i'm kidding........sorta.:beer:

 

[doh]

Customer service takes a back seat when theres airlines to catch! RElax, i'm kidding........sorta.:beer:

So was I!:beer:

 

[ArtVandalay]

Well, if you take the min days worked at FJ as quoted on a previous post (that would be 195 days) and compare it to NJAs schedule, of 175 days... ya get to work 20 more days a year. Almost like another month of work.

The above is not counting holidays off, but includes 2 weeks off (14 days) for vacation.

Flex has always screwed the pilots with the 28 day month

I worked 182 days last year at flex. YES, I down-bid to 14 and can afford to do so. A couple of months I worked 13 (not by choice) and a few of the other months I worked 15 days. In total it was 182 which is actually less than NJA however; the pay is MUCH lower too. I keep hearing the company is about to lower the average down to 15, I just hope a raise comes with it.

 

[Just Peachy]

days worked

Au Contraire mon ami..... For NJA there are 182 days of work available MINUS two, three, or 4 weeks of vacation. So at the minimum vacation available, you would only work 168 days. Then there is sim twice a year, two more weeks, and ground recurrent which is a week.

And all this with a pretty good salery! .... Who sez unions dont pay.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Sounds pretty good, but I think you're reaching with the recurrent stuff being considered off time. If you're away from home and getting paid for it I'd consider it work. By that standard Flex pilots also get an extra 10 or so days off a year for training (and do pass on to your p.r. people that we do indeed go in for training twice a year). And Flex pilots get 26 days off per year for starters too.

 

[gunfyter]

26 days?

 

[DirtyBeech]

26 days PTO first year. Sorry if that was confusing.

 

[Wiggums]

No, you don't.

You get 10 days of paid vacation your first year. Those extra days they tack on there are out of your regular time off.

At NetJets you would get 21 days for each week of vacation instead of 13 days.

 

[DirtyBeech]

I may be misinformed, but how is the week before and after a NJ's vacation any different than the time before and after a Flex vacation? Other than number of days I'm at a loss.

 

[Wiggums]

Flex is pretty good but...

A new FO who bids down to 14 to match NetJets 7/7 schedule would make $4300 less. On top of that you pay out more for benefits and get less match on your 401k. Looks like no raises this year even NetJets will get a COLA, but there will be a bonus. Oh, and don't forget no sick days for new hires either. Not a bad place to work but those are the facts of the matter.

 

[Wiggums]

I may be misinformed, but how is the week before and after a NJ's vacation any different than the time before and after a Flex vacation? Other than number of days I'm at a loss.

Yes, you get a string of 13 days off, but only five of those are paid. Your pay for the bid period will be the days you worked, plus five vacation days, multiplied by your daily rate.

 

[DirtyBeech]

All that is true, and has exactly what to do with the vacation time mentioned above?

 

[DirtyBeech]

Yes, you get a string of 13 days off, but only five of those are paid. Your pay for the bid period will be the days you worked, plus five vacation days, multiplied by your daily rate.

You're correct, and having a 5 day paid period surrounded by two four day off periods or the equivalent ought not make any difference in your bid period pay.