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Gulfstream 200 said:
If you share these planes with many other folks, EASY on the highlighter please...:rolleyes: ...

I have picked up some charts that look like pre-school coloring practice!!

Its just as easy to circle or highlight the FIR fix on your flight plan and know what to call the next center..

OR - if one insists on coloring maps, use those real nifty highlighter tape pens that peel off after you pass the fix - those are pretty slick!

BAN THE HIGHLIGHTERS!

:D .

What kind of cheese would you like with that? ;)




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TonyC said:
What kind of cheese would you like with that? ;)




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Bright Orange or Bright Yellow American...Im not too picky..

;):D
 
You WILL have trouble understanding the controllers (even in the U.K.). When you don't get something, just say "I'm sorry, could you please repeat." Even the most seasoned among us still don't get some transmissions.

Talk to you later.TC
 
Dude,

Check your PM's.

Too bad about the "lump." Hope you fly with "diamonds" too.

Good luck,
 
CL60 said:
Dude,

Check your PM's.

Too bad about the "lump." Hope you fly with "diamonds" too.

Good luck,

it does make it more enjoyable when you make your first xing -- it is with someone that has a little enthusiasm :)
 
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Oceanic Ops

Duderino,

I agree with everyone above, especially G200 and Ace. One thing missed,

"More important than checking your current position is checking where you're going!"

Every time I cross a fix I note the time, temp and wind, but I immediately look at where the airplane is heading and what it's track is and how that correlates to the master document. Your track should be with a degree or two of the track on the document and the distance to the next fix should be pretty darn close. In order to come out where you want to you need to catch any small error early on.

Other than that, get your HF comms up early and get your Selcal check done. This will save you a bunch of grief as you approach your coast out fix.

TransMach
 
Duderino said:
Will you guys please give me some pointers? I am totally green when it comes to this and need all the advice I can get. The guy I am flying with doesn't like to help, and am looking for some pointers that will help me as I go along.

The class I took last October( Global Ops Intial) was a joke, and the little I took away is long gone.

What is the procedure for altitude changes in the North Atlantic RVSM?

What is the order of position reporting? Pos/Time/Alt/Pos/Time/Pos? I am familiar with Position Reporting, however it was in the Caribbean, South America, and Mexico.

Another question for those familiar with Honeywell IRS in the GIV. The software we have is what the plane came with in 1992. We only have one GPS sensor.
Is it possible to update the IRS during flight from the GPS Sensor?
We are having some drift issues. No. 1 is 4.0, No. 2 is 0.5, and No. 3 is 2.0 all with in forty minutes of flight. It seemed to hold the same amount of error after that, for another 2 hours.

Any other advice is greatly appreciated.


Way to go Dude!

One way to get the position reports down to science , when you are working HF listen to Airline types or other pros like .........G200 ;-0) give their reports. :rolleyes:
One thing that is sure to bring down the house, (at 40w)
Give a " Jumpers away on track alpha fl 450 and below" That realy pi$$es of the airline guys on 123.45
have fun
 
Flyinjunk said:
One way to get the position reports down to science , when you are working HF listen to Airline types or other pros ...

Except that many airlines are using CPDL now and you'll hear them check on once then Gander advises them to contact Shanwick on the other side. Must be nice not having to listen for Selcal or HF static all night! :D
 
thanks Trans. Appreciate it.

I like the jumpers away idea.

TransMach said:
Duderino,

I agree with everyone above, especially G200 and Ace. One thing missed,

"More important than checking your current position is checking where you're going!"

Every time I cross a fix I note the time, temp and wind, but I immediately look at where the airplane is heading and what it's track is and how that correlates to the master document. Your track should be with a degree or two of the track on the document and the distance to the next fix should be pretty darn close. In order to come out where you want to you need to catch any small error early on.

Other than that, get your HF comms up early and get your Selcal check done. This will save you a bunch of grief as you approach your coast out fix.

TransMach
 
2000flyer said:
Except that many airlines are using CPDL now and you'll hear them check on once then Gander advises them to contact Shanwick on the other side. Must be nice not having to listen for Selcal or HF static all night! :D

Now you are pulling my larriat! You mean we have to listen to the hf the whole way across???.
 
Flyinjunk said:
Now you are pulling my larriat! You mean we have to listen to the hf the whole way across???.

Nope. Nada. Zip!

I haven't seen it in action, only read about it (and heard on HF). Airline checks on coast out, gives both selcal and notifies CPDL. Gander/Shanwick tests selcal. Crew responds "Selcal check ok." G/S Roger, contact G/S at XXW. Done deal. I'm guessing all position reports are still made, though with a push of a button on the FMS/FMC. Can't wait until it's availble to us motals ;):D

Maybe one of our international airline bretheren can shed more light.

2000Flyer
 
I "think" it is avaliable...

If you look on your Honelywell FMS there in an ATC button on top...thats where it lives...

not sure how one goes about gettng it setup/approved etc...but it would be nice to have it running!!

and forget about that initial call up to Gander, thats the worse one half the time...I want to push buttons and never talk to ANYONE!!!

:)
 
we have been making our pos reports using our sat phone lately. there is a procedure and we had to sign up for it. seems to work fairly well although it is sometimes easier to just call on hf. depends on freq congestion.:)
 
In any event, Duderino should be getting blinded by the sun over the channel about now having experienced his first crossing! Congrats, Dude! (Haven't checked CNN for reports of missing aircraft, though... :p )

Have a morning beer in GVA for us. Cheers!TC

P.S.--Hope you didn't have to strangle that logbook padding lump of coal on the way over... ;)
 
HEHE. I made it. That was fun, but twelve hours block time today, er I mean yesterday, or, is it a weekday? I am beat. Thanks for all the help y'all. I couldn't help thinking about your comments on that d@mn Sun while I was moving the shade over right in front of the Captain. Uneventful and I didn't mess up, that bad anyways. IRS held to 4.5 each. I did get a DBDI orange STBY light, but pressed test, again, and it cleared. I was so tired I didn't bother looking up what that would have meant, had it stayed on. Think I'll have a knap and then go over to Bucks for a beer or five.

peas,

Duder
 

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