First Crossing?

[TransMach]

Oceanic Ops

Duderino,

I agree with everyone above, especially G200 and Ace. One thing missed,

"More important than checking your current position is checking where you're going!"

Every time I cross a fix I note the time, temp and wind, but I immediately look at where the airplane is heading and what it's track is and how that correlates to the master document. Your track should be with a degree or two of the track on the document and the distance to the next fix should be pretty darn close. In order to come out where you want to you need to catch any small error early on.

Other than that, get your HF comms up early and get your Selcal check done. This will save you a bunch of grief as you approach your coast out fix.

TransMach

 

[Flyinjunk]

Will you guys please give me some pointers? I am totally green when it comes to this and need all the advice I can get. The guy I am flying with doesn't like to help, and am looking for some pointers that will help me as I go along.

The class I took last October( Global Ops Intial) was a joke, and the little I took away is long gone.

What is the procedure for altitude changes in the North Atlantic RVSM?

What is the order of position reporting? Pos/Time/Alt/Pos/Time/Pos? I am familiar with Position Reporting, however it was in the Caribbean, South America, and Mexico.

Another question for those familiar with Honeywell IRS in the GIV. The software we have is what the plane came with in 1992. We only have one GPS sensor.
Is it possible to update the IRS during flight from the GPS Sensor?
We are having some drift issues. No. 1 is 4.0, No. 2 is 0.5, and No. 3 is 2.0 all with in forty minutes of flight. It seemed to hold the same amount of error after that, for another 2 hours.

Any other advice is greatly appreciated.


Way to go Dude!

One way to get the position reports down to science , when you are working HF listen to Airline types or other pros like .........G200 ;-0) give their reports.
One thing that is sure to bring down the house, (at 40w)
Give a " Jumpers away on track alpha fl 450 and below" That realy pi$$es of the airline guys on 123.45
have fun

 

[2000flyer]

One way to get the position reports down to science , when you are working HF listen to Airline types or other pros ...

Except that many airlines are using CPDL now and you'll hear them check on once then Gander advises them to contact Shanwick on the other side. Must be nice not having to listen for Selcal or HF static all night!

 

[Duderino]

thanks Trans. Appreciate it.

I like the jumpers away idea.

Duderino,

I agree with everyone above, especially G200 and Ace. One thing missed,

"More important than checking your current position is checking where you're going!"

Every time I cross a fix I note the time, temp and wind, but I immediately look at where the airplane is heading and what it's track is and how that correlates to the master document. Your track should be with a degree or two of the track on the document and the distance to the next fix should be pretty darn close. In order to come out where you want to you need to catch any small error early on.

Other than that, get your HF comms up early and get your Selcal check done. This will save you a bunch of grief as you approach your coast out fix.

TransMach

 

[Flyinjunk]

Except that many airlines are using CPDL now and you'll hear them check on once then Gander advises them to contact Shanwick on the other side. Must be nice not having to listen for Selcal or HF static all night!

Now you are pulling my larriat! You mean we have to listen to the hf the whole way across???.

 

[2000flyer]

Now you are pulling my larriat! You mean we have to listen to the hf the whole way across???.

Nope. Nada. Zip!

I haven't seen it in action, only read about it (and heard on HF). Airline checks on coast out, gives both selcal and notifies CPDL. Gander/Shanwick tests selcal. Crew responds "Selcal check ok." G/S Roger, contact G/S at XXW. Done deal. I'm guessing all position reports are still made, though with a push of a button on the FMS/FMC. Can't wait until it's availble to us motals

Maybe one of our international airline bretheren can shed more light.

2000Flyer

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I "think" it is avaliable...

If you look on your Honelywell FMS there in an ATC button on top...thats where it lives...

not sure how one goes about gettng it setup/approved etc...but it would be nice to have it running!!

and forget about that initial call up to Gander, thats the worse one half the time...I want to push buttons and never talk to ANYONE!!!

 

[semperfido]

we have been making our pos reports using our sat phone lately. there is a procedure and we had to sign up for it. seems to work fairly well although it is sometimes easier to just call on hf. depends on freq congestion.

 

[AA717driver]

In any event, Duderino should be getting blinded by the sun over the channel about now having experienced his first crossing! Congrats, Dude! (Haven't checked CNN for reports of missing aircraft, though... )

Have a morning beer in GVA for us. Cheers!TC

P.S.--Hope you didn't have to strangle that logbook padding lump of coal on the way over...

 

[Duderino]

HEHE. I made it. That was fun, but twelve hours block time today, er I mean yesterday, or, is it a weekday? I am beat. Thanks for all the help y'all. I couldn't help thinking about your comments on that d@mn Sun while I was moving the shade over right in front of the Captain. Uneventful and I didn't mess up, that bad anyways. IRS held to 4.5 each. I did get a DBDI orange STBY light, but pressed test, again, and it cleared. I was so tired I didn't bother looking up what that would have meant, had it stayed on. Think I'll have a knap and then go over to Bucks for a beer or five.

peas,

Duder

 

[Gulfstream 200]

HEHE. I made it. That was fun, but twelve hours block time today, er I mean yesterday, or, is it a weekday? I am beat. Thanks for all the help y'all. I couldn't help thinking about your comments on that d@mn Sun while I was moving the shade over right in front of the Captain. Uneventful and I didn't mess up, that bad anyways. IRS held to 4.5 each. I did get a DBDI orange STBY light, but pressed test, again, and it cleared. I was so tired I didn't bother looking up what that would have meant, had it stayed on. Think I'll have a knap and then go over to Bucks for a beer or five.

peas,

Duder

Dude! he made it!

12 hrs blocktime and your tired?....dude....ditch the skirt.


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[TonyC]

Dude! he made it!

12 hrs blocktime and your tired?....dude....ditch the skirt.


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ROFL

I wonder if he used highlighers?






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[semperfido]

but twelve hours block time today, er I mean yesterday, or, is it a weekday? I am beat. . I couldn't help thinking about your comments on that d@mn Sun while I was moving the shade over right in front of the Captain. Uneventful and I didn't mess up, that bad anyways.

twelve hr block in a g4-- so where was your intermediate stop? tired? next time let the other guy do some work.

those g4 sunshades are useless- you can be more creative than useing the OEM sunshade.


glad there were no hiccups

 

[Gulfstream 200]

ROFL

I wonder if he used highlighers?






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NO NO!!

NOT THE HIGHLIGHTERS!!!

Make them go away!! - I cant read the map! Its full of lines!

 

[Duderino]

This was Part 91(like it matters for me anyways), and we flew from TEB-IAD-TEB-BED-CYUL-LSGG. Started with a 0700 EDT show up, and a 5 hour stop in CYUL. We finished up at LSGG around 0400 EDT. I didn't use highlighters, and didn't even see any until short final when they started flying across the runway in a rainbow of colors. Does that mean I'm gay?

 

[Groundpounder]

Yes, but thats not important right now.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Shalom lives in Geneva?

I thought he summered in Provincetown?

 

[semperfido]

Started with a 0700 EDT show up, and a 5 hour stop in CYUL. We finished up at LSGG around 0400 EDT.

21 hr duty day?...nice

 

[Gulfstream 200]

21 hr duty day for two guys?...nice

duderino...was that really a 21hr duty day?

 

[AA717driver]

duderino...was that really a 21hr duty day?

Guess you have to take back that "skirt" comment! Dude's a "real man"! TC

P.S.--Oh yeah, the amber STBY in the DBDI means it's on the #3 IRS. WOW! I actually learned something in the 25 days I spent in SAV last month...