First CR9 painted for Air Mekong

[McNugent]

YEP. SJS and quick upgrades.

SJS and quick upgrades? Seriously? Most of the people going are already on the 700/900. So noone is chasing a pipe dream of flying a bigger RJ. And they didn't offer upgrades to FO's. So essentially the FO's who take the contract are locking themselves into 13 more months in the right seat despite the possible upgrade in the next year here at home.

The fact of the matter is this is a completely different model and set up vs. your standard contract job. Like 79% said, name another contract where you can accrue seniority, vacation, and sick time at your home carrier while you're gone. It's the ultimate insurance policy.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

There is not much ALPA could do for this contract. It is in a country where unions are illegal, and this is outside the scope of you CBA. Trust me, we are all very curious how this little arrangement develops.

 

[CX880]

You are making the same arguments that people who undercut always use and it always falls short. And about contract pilots working on MD 11 for 60K? AMERICAN CHEAP LABOR, and you are continuing the downward trend and simply don't care do you? It will always amaze me as to how some of the best trained, experienced and professional pilots in the world always make excuses to justify being the worst paid

You are wasting your time. These are ASa pylots. One of the most brainwashed pilot groups out there. Mainly because while other management are starving their pilots, their management has figured out that if you give a dog half a bone, they will do your bidding. TFAYD

 

[CX880]

There is not much ALPA could do for this contract. It is in a country where unions are illegal, and this is outside the scope of you CBA. Trust me, we are all very curious how this little arrangement develops.

What does alpa have anything to do with it? Tell your management collectively to change the terms. Do you guys have some forum where you can discuss this amongst yourselves?? ?Have you looked around to see what Vietnam Airlines pilots are making with their contracts?

 

[shamrock]

Do you guys have some forum where you can discuss this amongst yourselves?? ?

Here ya go...

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You are wasting your time. These are ASa pylots. One of the most brainwashed pilot groups out there. Mainly because while other management are starving their pilots, their management has figured out that if you give a dog half a bone, they will do your bidding. TFAYD

Ah!
Words of wisdom from the guy who felches Hulas every evening after he comes home from a hard day of swinging gear. Howz that goat jizz taste?
PBR

 

[SiuDude]

There is not much ALPA could do for this contract. It is in a country where unions are illegal, and this is outside the scope of you CBA. Trust me, we are all very curious how this little arrangement develops.

Unions are not illegal in Vietnam.

 

[buscap]

Ah!
Words of wisdom from the guy who felches Hulas every evening after he comes home from a hard day of swinging gear. Howz that goat jizz taste?
PBR

So whomever finds my references to certain people insulting does not find this offensive?

Really?

He said "felches"?

I personally think it's one of the funniest words ever, right up there with fart!

But you don't see fit to gripe to the moderators about "felches" and "goat cheese"?

Really?

Really?


I just don't get it!!!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

SJS and quick upgrades? Seriously? Most of the people going are already on the 700/900. So noone is chasing a pipe dream of flying a bigger RJ. And they didn't offer upgrades to FO's. So essentially the FO's who take the contract are locking themselves into 13 more months in the right seat despite the possible upgrade in the next year here at home.

The fact of the matter is this is a completely different model and set up vs. your standard contract job. Like 79% said, name another contract where you can accrue seniority, vacation, and sick time at your home carrier while you're gone. It's the ultimate insurance policy.

The fact of the matter is, we had the exact same model offered to us to fly EMB-120's in Belgium where we accrued seniority, vacation, and sick time, etc. but got paid more to fly 30 seat turboproprs, than your offer at Air Mekong flying 90 seat jets!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Which ones are paying $10,000 a month for Capts. (And it needs to be one that allows you to transition back to another job in the states while accruing seniority there while gone.)

See above response....

 

[McNugent]

The fact of the matter is, we had the exact same model offered to us to fly EMB-120's in Belgium where we accrued seniority, vacation, and sick time, etc. but got paid more to fly 30 seat turboproprs, than your offer at Air Mekong flying 90 seat jets!

Who is "we" and show me some proof.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Who is "we" and show me some proof.

This was several years ago, so not really sure what proof you want? The "we" is Skywest airlines.

 

[wms]

So when does the AM bid open?

 

[CX880]

Ah!
Words of wisdom from the guy who felches Hulas every evening after he comes home from a hard day of swinging gear. Howz that goat jizz taste?
PBR

Dude.. LOL. It's not Hulas's fault that you were felchalized while you were there. You are the one that came to him for a job. Pilots complaining about their regional is kind of like hoookers complainng that they were beat up or stabbed by their john.

 

[outtahere]

This was several years ago, so not really sure what proof you want? The "we" is Skywest airlines.

I guess you guys, and your mighty union told them to shove it up the ole' kiester huh?

 

[GeekMaster]

So when does the AM bid open?

The pilot slots have already been awarded. Believe it or not, on the captain's side they went with a majority of CR200 folks; not many CR7 captains.

 

[wms]

The pilot slots have already been awarded. Believe it or not, on the captain's side they went with a majority of CR200 folks; not many CR7 captains.

No Way! When did this happen! I'm gonna file a grievance!

 

[Dumb Pilot]

The fact of the matter is this is a completely different model and set up vs. your standard contract job. Like 79% said, name another contract where you can accrue seniority, vacation, and sick time at your home carrier while you're gone. It's the ultimate insurance policy.

Tell that story to the Vietnamese local pilots you will undercut, lets see what they think about your argument. uke:

To the ASA pilots that saw this pitiful contract and said Are you kidding? My hat goes off to you.

 

[MoroniMetro]

You are wasting your time. These are ASa pylots. One of the most brainwashed pilot groups out there. Mainly because while other management are starving their pilots, their management has figured out that if you give a dog half a bone, they will do your bidding. TFAYD

You could not be more wrong. The only reason we have a contract now is because the pilots had a slowdown that lasted about two weeks before ALPA and Management signed. ALPA had nothing to do with it, all pilots. I don't understand why you can't grasp the concept that Air Mekong could be shutdown within a month or two. IT IS A START UP AIRLINE, IT HAS MADE EXACTLY $0.00.!!!!!!! I am sure you did not attend Harvard business school, but surely you took at least Business 101 in college. The pilots have nothing to loose by going over there. If the company succeeds and produces a profit, then it will have to pay an industry standard to keep the employees there, if they don't, it will fold. The pilots will all return to the US, status quo. If you don't understand that having a senority number with a job back in the US is worth anything, than you are a f%cking retard.

 

[MoroniMetro]

You are making the same arguments that people who undercut always use and it always falls short. And about contract pilots working on MD 11 for 60K? AMERICAN CHEAP LABOR, and you are continuing the downward trend and simply don't care do you? It will always amaze me as to how some of the best trained, experienced and professional pilots in the world always make excuses to justify being the worst paid

Again, how much did ANA pay their pilots when they started up? You know as well as I do, it was far less than the industry standard. How much did SWA pay their pilots when they first started? Are you going you use your retarded argument that they are weighing down the industry. How about FDX and UPS??????? How much did a FDX falcon 20 driver make their first year compared to the rest of the "major industry". If you can't grasp this concept, then you are a f%cking retard too.