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Global, yes. U.S., no. TC
 
CALRepublic said:
Don't forget, most of those predictions were made before the age 65 rule, back then when oil was $80/ barrel. Things are a bit different at present
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Well considering most jobs these days are in the Middle East (cheap oil) and Asia (booming economies and rapid growth) with little native pilot populations, I'd say he's still nuts on for a global shortage.
 
I have heard this crap from Kit Darby ever since I got involved in aviation-that was back in '90..... That guy is all about self-promotion, never let any truth get in the way!
 
Even if there was a pilot shortage in the US, it wouldn't help anything. The only thing that would happen is you would see the Multi Crew Licence come in to play quicker. As soon as that happens, you've effectively doubled the amount of pilots in this country, and the FO pay will drop as candidates become more available to do this with no experience or flight background required. ALPA needs to kill this thing off.
 
Did it ever occur to you guys that there’s a looming pilot shortage because most just don’t want the career anymore. Too little pay for too much risk. Why spend $120,000 in education costs and licenses for a career that can’t even keep up with inflation.

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AA767AV8TOR said:
Did it ever occur to you guys that there’s a looming pilot shortage because most just don’t want the career anymore. Too little pay for too much risk. Why spend $120,000 in education costs and licenses for a career that can’t even keep up with inflation.

AA767AV8TOR
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Stop thinking rationally. There is a line from Seattle to San Fran of guys who want to fly big planes for free or 2/3 the going rate. Just look at Virgin or Allegiant. Skybus even had a line to get in!
 
Of coure there is nobody wanting to invest that kind of money in a pilots license for the pay. That's why there is a "Multi Crew Licence". No ticket, no problem- you can still sit up and fly while enjoying the view. It's like the ultimate inturnship- until one biffs in while the captain is trying to fly/flight instruct/ manage the airplane in bad weather while on an approach with someone that has NO CLUE what is going on, let alone what they are doing......
 
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MJ42 said:
... I heard he had the same reaction when he was FIRED from United.
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Kit will always be Kit - making money and all; I heard he's in bad shape though, might need a bypass? At least that's what I heard, if so I do hope he gets better...

Don't agree with his aggressive sales tactics but want no harm to the individual...
 
Ive been to a seminar where he showed up.

He's got the used car salesman blazer with the act to match.

The highlight of the seminar was when even the recruiters giving the intro speeches took shots at him for his eternal pilot shortage message.

What a prick.
 
AV80R said:
Kit will always be Kit - making money and all; I heard he's in bad shape though, might need a bypass? At least that's what I heard, if so I do hope he gets better...

Don't agree with his aggressive sales tactics but want no harm to the individual...
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I wish no ill will on him and hope his health is okay. I just made a truthful comment on yet another way he has mislead his clients.
 
JumpersAway said:
Even if there was a pilot shortage in the US, it wouldn't help anything. The only thing that would happen is you would see the Multi Crew Licence come in to play quicker. As soon as that happens, you've effectively doubled the amount of pilots in this country, and the FO pay will drop as candidates become more available to do this with no experience or flight background required. ALPA needs to kill this thing off.
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I keep reading that many pilots are concerned about this MPL thing, but that's one thing I'm really not concerned about, outside, of course, the suitability of a low time guy sitting in the right seat of a jet in the first place. But I don't think the MPL will flood the market with pilots for one simple reason- it still costs 10's of thousands of dollars to go through a MPL course. Just like it costs 10's of thousands of dollars to go through a course with ALL ATP's or any other pilot puppy mill. No matter what route a perspective pilot chooses, he's still looking at paying 10's of thousands of dollars for a $20K/yr. regional F/O job, which, as we saw start to materialize last year, doesn't make much financial sense.

I don't think ALPA will be able to kill it off, either. I think they'll definitely have a say as to how a MPL-type course is implemented and/or developed, but that will probably be the extent of their influence.

Now, what would be really nice is if regional airlines were forced to have to pay for this MPL training, relieving the perspective pilot of having to front the high initial costs of pilot training. In this environment that's probably not going to happen, but perhaps during the "next upturn," in combination with the start of some retirements, we'll start to see that happen. Who knows.
 

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