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BILL LUMBERG

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This takes 2 minutes of your day to protect a lifetime of earnings....:beer:


Norwegian Air International Call to Action

Urge Your Senators to Vote YES on the Klobuchar-Coats-Schatz-Blunt Amendment, Deny NAI

Action is needed now in the U.S. Senate! Pilots scored a major victory to Deny NAI on June 9 when the U.S. House of Representatives unanimously passed the Westmoreland-DeFazio Amendment to H.R. 4745, the FY 2015 Transportation Appropriations bill. Not one member of the House of Representatives opposed our efforts to level the playing field for U.S. pilots.

The amendment simply requires that DOT follow U.S. law and labor protection provisions of the U.S.-EU Open Skies Agreement when considering an application for a foreign air carrier permit. The strength of our collective voice was heard by the House. Now we must make our voices resonate in the U.S. Senate!

Senators Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Dan Coats (R-IN), Brian Schatz (D-HI) and Roy Blunt (R-MO) will offer an amendment during the week of June 16 when the Senate takes up its FY 2015 Transportation Appropriations bill (S. 2438). This amendment mirrors the amendment passed in the House. Debate could start as soon as Monday, June 16, so the time to act is now! If you have already signed the petition and/or participated in the Call to Action to the House of Representatives, it is time to step up again for Round 2. Your efforts are working! Take Action Today to send a message to your U.S. senator. Also call your senators through the Capitol switchboard 202-224-3121 and urge him or her to vote YES on the Klobuchar-Coats-Schatz-Blunt Amendment to Deny NAI! Every email, tweet, and phone call counts
 

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Already done and done again.

Please spread the word

I've run across a few who thought the government had already rejected them.
(The danger of winning just one battle)
 

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Looks like it's been tabled for now with Senate in-fighting.

Let's keep an eye on it and call if it goes to the Senate floor.
 

BILL LUMBERG

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Oh yeah? Where'd you hear that Red?
 

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It was in a post from our Government Affairs guys late last night.

They said there was a collapse of the Energy and Water appropriations that has kind of derailed the amendments for now. I must admit it makes my head spin with regards to how Congress operates.

Tried to find a link on line, but was unsuccessful.
 

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It has been tabled in the Senate unfortunately. We received a blastmail from our
Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman last night.
 

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It was in a post from our Government Affairs guys late last night.

They said there was a collapse of the Energy and Water appropriations that has kind of derailed the amendments for now. I must admit it makes my head spin with regards to how Congress operates.

Tried to find a link on line, but was unsuccessful.

red, congress operates??? Those bums haven't done much if anything at all in the last decade!!!!!
 

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Hey, I don't disagree, but this is the market doing what the consumer wants, cheapest airfare. As soon as the masses hear we are trying to protect our jobs and pay over their cheap air service, how do you think a senator will vote?

Yes, I have already called all my senators to urge them to vote to keep these guys out.
 

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Hey, I don't disagree, but this is the market doing what the consumer wants, cheapest airfare. As soon as the masses hear we are trying to protect our jobs and pay over their cheap air service, how do you think a senator will vote?

Yes, I have already called all my senators to urge them to vote to keep these guys out.

^^^^^^^^ Sad but true
 

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Frame it differently.

This is about us protecting our jobs, but it's also about national autonomy and the right for nations to make laws that can be upheld-

Flag of convenience is about much more than job protection
 

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Bill- when mayor's come out in support of these things they NEED TO FEEL IT POLITICALLY.

Orlando mayor just got a letter along with cc to every major media outlet highlighting this

I urge you all to support
 

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Frame it differently.

This is about us protecting our jobs, but it's also about national autonomy and the right for nations to make laws that can be upheld-

Flag of convenience is about much more than job protection

Until the consumer wants it made cheaper like his iphone, from China, or lawn furniture from Thailand, or Levi's from Mexico. Right after those things, then he'll say to himself "self, I want cheaper airfare, I guess I'll google cheap airfare", and he finds the NAI website and buys it without a second thought that his kids won't have a job in ten years.

I made a prediction about five years ago this would be happening, it is, we now have Barista's, not electrical engineers.
 

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I don't think you've thought this idea of yours all the way to its end scoreboard.
If they end up operating, then we organize and we fight- just like now- and cross further issues at hand at the time
 

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Wave, fight how if the senators won't back us? Insurrection? Strike?

I'm just saying we've all seen this before in other forms, steel mills going to China, auto manufacturing, electronics.

The only reason any of those jobs stay or come back to the US is the labor costs have dropped to a level equivalent to overseas workers plus shipping.

If NAI or others get their feet in the door, our US aviation industry will collapse, and only recover when wages drop.
 

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Another reason FOR NAI!

Air Rage: airfares climbing at fastest clip in 15 years

By Jeff Macke June 18, 2014 8:12 AM Breakout

Flight cancellations, hour long security lines, endless delays and rapidly rising airline fares are turning the friendly skies into fight club. A day after footage of one man's mile-high meltdown went viral came news that might make you want to throw a seat cushion or two yourself: airline fare prices jumped 6% in May. It's the steepest one-month increase in 15 years.
The price hikes come despite the fact that the U.S. travel experience has in some ways never been worse. Once again this year no U.S. carrier managed to crack the top 20 in a rating of the best airlines by Business Insider. At SkyTrax only Jet Blue and Virgin U.S. qualify for even four stars (out of five) on their ratings of hundreds of global carriers. Those two airlines account for less than 5.2% of U.S. traffic and Virgin isn't even a U.S. company. For the sake of comparison Kazakhstan has the same number of fully domestic based carriers with a four star rating.
Of course don't blame the record mergers that have given four U.S. carriers 80% of the market. Unless you're a spokesperson for an airline lobbyist in which case you can do exactly that. Explaining the rising fares Victoria Day of Airlines for America said "the growth in air travel demand has been exceeding the growth in supply" says Day, almost trying to infuriate you. "And consumer purchasing power is actually increasing with gains in household net worth"
In other words, sure the airlines are gauging you a little bit, but only because the government lets them and you can afford it. Here's another thing that's moving higher: air rage. According to the IATA "incidents" like the one last weekend rose 57% in 2013. Don't look for that trend or airfares to move lower anytime soon.
 

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Pilots salaries will only go down if there are pilots to fly for those wages. With the lack of pilots willing to fly for low wages, and US majors increasing pay with the last few cpas(Us and aa kind of), foreign carriers will have to pay competitive wages.

What alpa needs to be doing is going after those pilot groups instead of alienating them also.
 
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