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[Lynxman]

You go on autopia often PBR?

 

[EHE2]

you won't be coming back to transstates....anytime soon!!!

 

[CopilotDoug]

In terms of what price power etc etc?

Power.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

here is the best:
http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_99.aspx
Concealed carry is tough, I just use the AMG Mercedes with tinted windows, The finest American firepower combined with the finest German mobility product!:
http://www.autopia.org/forum/hot-tub/90407-flat-black-mercedes-slr.html
PBR

You talk Chip into some great new pay package for all of us???

 

[regionaltard]

A wise man once said that Jack Bauer is the only person that HK doesn't hate. Get a Sig and thank me later.

 

[Lynxman]

In terms of feet per second I'd say its only second to the 357 magnum havent looked up speeds on that yet. The 45 is nice its not nearly as fast but has a lot of knockdown power. .357 sig is way better than the 38special and 40 S&W for these reasons. The .357 sig is a 40S&W case necked down to a 9mm bullet. So with the smaller bullet you get much more penetration and higher fps. 38 special has no room to be in this comparison. Now mind you, you can buy hot loads and all those rounds will shoot high fps but of them all the .357 sig is 2nd prolly only to the 357 magnum.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You talk Chip into some great new pay package for all of us???

I got my coupons comatted, didn't you? I told Chip I wanted a Barrett and a Matte Black cruiser and he sent me the coupons/vouchers, now I am driving in style and heavily armed!
PBR
P.S. I like my guns American, cars German and women Brazilian!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You go on autopia often PBR?

When you have one of these babies, detailing is everything. When the Mesa F/Os who work part-time at the carwash work on my airport car(BMW M5), I want to be sure they are doing it correctly. Even though it's my beater, it still has to look good!
PBR

 

[jergar999]

If you're going to spend the money for a .357sig you might as well man up and go 10mm. I have a Glock .45 and with a simple barrel and mag change it becomes a difficult to handle 10mm.

 

[Lynxman]

******************** Glock. So overrated! .357 Sig FTW!

 

[NoJoy]

For some of the best performing ammo for the $ go here:
http://doubletapammo.com

it will take your 357sig or 10mm to a whole new level-

 

[skychicken]

I just submitted my order last week for the HK USP. How long is it taking now to recieve it? I know some people had said around a month, is that a realistic time frame?

 

[DrewBlows]

I'm interested in a hand gun for home protection and general recreation. I'm a little concerned that the Pilot HK doesn't have a safety since it will be handled by my fiance (and myself for that matter).

What are the benefits of not having a safety? I've always been in the habit of setting the safety before handing over any weapon, is there an equally safe way to handle a gun without a safety? Is there something I'm missing? Can someone recommend a good gun for my purposes?

Cheers!

 

[Cardinal]

I'm interested in a hand gun for home protection and general recreation. I'm a little concerned that the Pilot HK doesn't have a safety since it will be handled by my fiance (and myself for that matter).

What are the benefits of not having a safety? I've always been in the habit of setting the safety before handing over any weapon, is there an equally safe way to handle a gun without a safety? Is there something I'm missing? Can someone recommend a good gun for my purposes?

Cheers!

I'd think of it like a gear horn on a piston single, folks still land 'em gear up. The double-action is pretty idiot proof, and the trigger pull is really really long and really heavy. The hammer is down unless you're on the trigger, so a dropped weapon that lands on the muzzle is a non-issue. If you're very nervous about being one trigger pull from a discharge, there's always the option of an empty chamber, it's anathema to the 1911 crowd but you're still only two quick, intuitive actions away from firing.


FWIW the Red Army beat the Third Reich with a weapon with effectively no safety, the M91/30.

 

[belchfire]

I'm interested in a hand gun for home protection and general recreation. I'm a little concerned that the Pilot HK doesn't have a safety since it will be handled by my fiance (and myself for that matter).

What are the benefits of not having a safety? I've always been in the habit of setting the safety before handing over any weapon, is there an equally safe way to handle a gun without a safety? Is there something I'm missing? Can someone recommend a good gun for my purposes?

Cheers!

Rather than setting the safety, the best way to hand over a weapon is to eject the magazine (if applicable), open the action and latch it open, confirm that the chamber is empty and then hand it over. This way everyone knows that it's unloaded! Just using the safety is no guarantee of anything...safeties have failed in the past.

Single and double action revolvers have no safety. In a combat situation the safety is just one more thing that could keep you from getting a shot off in time should you forget it's there.

You may want to look into a revolver. There's nothing wrong with them. .357 Mag is still a fine round though for short range and pure stopping power .44 Special would be better without the recoil, noise and weight of a .44 Mag.

However, the absolute best firearm for home defense would be a 12ga pump shotgun with a factory short barrel using 2 and 3/4 in., OO Buckshot...again, no need for a magnum at short range. And should an intruder not flee upon hearing the distinct "ka-chunk" of a pumpgun ramming a shell home, well...ya better be ready to defend yourself!

 

[propsarebest]

I agree 1,000,000,000,000,000% on getting a shotgun.

Go to someplace like Big 5 and you can get a mossie 500 real cheap.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Can someone recommend a good gun for my purposes?

Cheers!

Squirt-gun!

Home defense, Mossberg 12GA pump, 00buck, really all you could need!
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Can someone recommend a good gun for my purposes?

Cheers!

Squirt-gun!

Home defense, Mossberg 12GA pump, 00buck, really all you could need!
PBR
P.S. Anyone who decides to engage someone who just pumped one into the chamber, is gonna need a dose of Pb express anyway!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Can someone recommend a good gun for my purposes?

Cheers!

Squirt-gun!

Home defense, Mossberg 12GA pump, 00buck, really all you could need!
PBR
P.S. Anyone who decides to engage someone who just pumped one into the chamber, is gonna need a dose of Pb, express or 3 anyway!

 

[nwaredtail]

I agree 1,000,000,000,000,000% on getting a shotgun.

Go to someplace like Big 5 and you can get a mossie 500 real cheap.

First Question at Gunsite, firearms training center. Instructors are SEALS, MI5, LA Swat, (think best in the world)

What is the best weapon you can have for home protection? Answer, the meanest, baddest automatic shotgun you can afford.

Second question: What do you do when someone breaks into your home?

typical answers: "call 911, give a warning shot, hide behind furniture"

Real answer, "hunt them down and kill them, they knew the risk"