Fedex vs UPS

[Browntothebone]

Gumbydammit, check out www.fortune.com. I know FedEx is great, but our goal will always be to crush them, and we will have fun doing it! Competition is healthy for business and keeps everybody on their toes. Hopefully this magazine article is a little more current than the last one.....

Tuesday February 19, 5:16 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: UPS
UPS Once Again `America's Most Admired'
ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 19, 2002--For the 19th consecutive year, UPS (NYSE:UPS - news) has been rated ``America's Most Admired'' company in its industry in a Fortune magazine survey.

UPS also posted the highest average score of any airline or transportation company ranked by the magazine; was ranked in the top 10 nationwide across all industries on four of the eight attributes used to compile the rankings, and was ranked No. 1 in all eight attributes within its industry category.

UPS scored in the top 10 for the quality of its products and services; its financial soundness; its commitment to social responsibility, and for its long-term investment value. Within its industry category, UPS ranked No. 1 in each of those four attributes as well as in rankings for its ability to innovate; quality of management; employee talent, and use of corporate assets.

UPS also received an overall score of 8.16, one of only eight companies in any industry segment to score above 8.0.

UPS, which has built one of the world's best known brands, operates in more than 200 countries and territories around the world and has been widely recognized in recent years for its expanding role in enabling global commerce.

The complete rankings for each industry segment appear in the March 4th issue of Fortune. UPS joins companies like General Electric, IBM, Citigroup, Microsoft, Intel and The Home Depot at the top of their industries.

To compile its list of America's most admired companies, Fortune worked with the Hay Group consultancy to poll 10,000 senior executives, directors and analysts. The result is a group of companies ``that seem to perform at their best when the heat is on,'' the magazine said.

 

[USMCFDX]

Browntothebone,
Nice article, but I think you left out all of the parts about FedEx.

America's most admired companies: The shiniest
reputations in tarnished times

Most Admired companies? Please. Scanning the headlines these days makes you wonder if there are any companies worthy of our esteem. Enron, Arthur Andersen, Kmart, Global Crossing, Warnaco, Tyco--need we continue?

And yet in a year when corporate America is not exactly attracting waves of affection, you've
told us that there are still companies that win your respect. A FORTUNE poll of 10,000
executives, analysts, and directors conducted late last fall--well after Enron's shenanigans
first came to light--found that the same names kept emerging. Seven of the ten Most Admired
companies in the nation in 2002--General Electric, Southwest Airlines, Wal-Mart, Microsoft,
Berkshire Hathaway, Home Depot, and Intel--are old reliables from the past two years. One,
Johnson & Johnson, regained its top ten berth after a three-year absence. Just two, FedEx
and Citigroup, are making their first showing in the 20-year history of the list.

Being most admired is all about delivering what you promise to multiple audiences, and that's
something No. 8 FedEx has down pat. Just as Johnson & Johnson found it had to move
beyond its roots, FedEx has successfully transcended its image as simply an air express
carrier for business to become a one-stop shop for any shipping need. Acquisitions like RPS in
1998 and American Freightways last year have rounded out FedEx's offerings to include
ground and freight, respectively, a prescient move given the corporate cost cutting that
followed. "Having the ground network in place has been particularly important as the economy
has slowed," says Jim Winchester, transportation analyst at Lazard Freres. "It allowed us to
walk and chew gum at the same time," quips founder and CEO Fred Smith. Customers agree:
George Kurth, director of supply chain and logistics at Hyundai Motor America, consolidated his $450,000 monthly shipping business from a hodgepodge of companies into FedEx a few
months back. "We wanted the best," he says.
Those developments, plus a landmark seven-year, $7 billion deal to transport priority, express,
and first-class mail for the U.S. Postal Service, helped FedEx increase its operating margin
from 4.2% in the first half of 2001 to 6.6% in the second half. FedEx's stock was up almost
30% for the year, and it's up 61% from its post-Sept. 11 low, while UPS's stock is up just 19%. Partly because of that impressive stock run-up, FedEx won the hearts and minds of the broad business audience this year, while still trailing Big Brown in its industry rankings.

I have only posted when FedEx was mentioned. Go to Forbes for the whole article. Yes it says we still trail Big Brown according to the article in industry rankings, and yes we are a younger company. I am sure both FedEx and UPS will be the two major players around in the next 25 years, and I would not be surprised to see UPS market share drop.

 

[profile]

Brown has to be in management, no UPS line pilot would make posts like this! ;-)

 

[Browntothebone]

Brown isn't very shiny, but #1 is still a good number except for recent gains in stock price.....but hopefully I have a few years left.


From www.fortune.com, and O.K. I didn't leave out FedEx this time.....


FDX
Company's Industry: Score / Industry Rank

Mail, Package, Freight Delivery 6.64 / 2

Eight Key Attributes of Reputation: Score / Industry Rank

Innovativeness 7.13 / 2
Employee talent 6.54 / 2
Use of corporate assets 6.52 / 2
Social responsibility 5.71 / 2
Quality of management 6.88 / 2
Financial soundness 6.38 / 2
Long-term investment value 6.5 / 2
Quality of products/services 7.5 / 2


UPS

Company's Industry: Score / Industry Rank

Mail, Package, Freight Delivery 8.16 / 1

Eight Key Attributes of Reputation: Score / Industry Rank
Innovativeness 7.95 / 1
Employee talent 7.91 / 1
Use of corporate assets 7.77 / 1
Social responsibility 7.73 / 1
Quality of management 8.41 / 1
Financial soundness 8.64 / 1
Long-term investment value 8.27 / 1
Quality of products/services 8.59 / 1

 

[may]

I have to say, after reading the posts from the original question, - browntothebone- you have nice back up for your comments. But, with regards for the question of the post, you score a 3 out of 10 for useful information. You seem very competitive towards your fellow pilots. I would like to hear why YOU love UPS, not the numbers. I can make (amway) sound good. (No, I do not fly for amway). I would be honored to fly for either company. But with regards to the question of the post and the replies I would choose FEDEX.

I just want to hi five my bud's at airports accross the country, no matter who they work for.

People make the difference.

Let me in.

 

[profile]

Yes, Brown has to be in management, which means he can probably answer why UPS refuses to offer sleep rooms for their pilots during the sort in SDF? FedEx has them, I admit not a huge number, but I've never had a problem getting one if I was on duty either. Showers are there as well.

How about more options for food than food machines? A real buffeteria?

I know for a fact the pilots would like these things.

 

[AlbieF15]

Profile,

Am I going to bump into you when I check my locker at the AOC for mail? I didn't figure you as the sleeproom type...I thought you'd be out getting some BBQ stingray(my favorite) in Singapore, a seven course Mandarin dinner in Taipei, or some Sushi in Tokyo...

As an MD11 wannabe....tell me you aren't hub turning.....keep hope alive for me. One day I WON'T be on the 727 panel and will be living the "glamorous life" (sounds of Sheena E in background, please...) exploring the Orient and Europe in a fine McAir 3 engine product (instead of the fine TWO engine product I currently enjoy flying)

Happy to be here. Now what does that d@mn light on the panel mean .....oh......scr@wed the stabilizer up again.....

Albie

 

[profile]

While I like the international flying more, I have been bidding trips that stay closer to home the past several months because I have young kids and a lot going on at home. Also, I have been holding lines with all my layovers at home, and THAT is worth hub turning for! I bid an international line every few months to keep my sanity. ;-)

 

[UPSer]

Browntothebone has to be in management. While I do enjoy working here for the most part, he is way too gung-ho to be a line pilot.

 

[F18-FDX]

All great comments above...both great companies with great pay and retirement. However, words in a company's mission statement are just that...words. It is quality of life on the line that counts.

The origins of the companies and the allocation of assets are as important in the overall picture as anything else: UPS is a trucking company with airplanes...FedEx is an airline with trucks. It has always been this way and that's why pilots hold important positions all the way up the chain in management. IMHO, this makes a difference in quality of life for the lineholder from catering to hotels to work rules, etc. Just my 2 cents.

 

[UPS Capt]

Profile,

Yes, he has to be a management pilot or a new hire! Either way he's had one cup too many of the brown KoolAid.

Still waiting for TCAS!! Safety...hmmmm.

 

[profile]

Still no TCAS? I had thought you folks finally had it, or was that just the select few aircraft that fly the places that mandate it?

 

[UPS Capt]

Just the required select few on the international birds. They're still pushing their ADSB project. In the mean time, we should have had TCAS a long time ago on every aircraft!

 

[Gumbydammit]

Profile,
How long did it take you to be able to hold hub turns and what are the locations that go junior for those? I, too, am very inerested in the maximum home time while the kiddies are young. Thanks all for the great posts...just got back from a long trip and checked this board...you guys are great!

 

[profile]

Too many variables to answer that question, depends on aircraft type, seat, etc. You need to look at the bid packs and the awards to sort it out. Just depends on how you want to bid, but as a S/O you could probably hold good stuff pretty early on.