FEDEX Fall Classes

[houseopain]

KD just left a message that both Sep and Oct classes are cancelled and if something changes she will let me know...SEND MONEY and another life raft!

 

[LEROY]

So is it time to start an unofficial FedEx pool list like SWA? Maybe those guys can lend us some goggles and rubber duckies!!

 

[w8n4swa]

FedEx poolies,

If you're interested in starting a FedEx Poolie list, I'll be glad to help you start it. We've got the form and we can get it titled "FDX Pool List" next to the "SWA Pool List" above.

What do you think? Any takers?

 

[w8n4swa]

OK, here's what we need to do:

First, being unfamiliar with FedEx, I'll need to know a little about how poolies get in the pool. What method does FDX use in determining pool dates? Do you get a letter or a call? Does the date of this letter or call determine the pool date? Knowing this will help label the list columns.

Next, each poolie will need to post their "member name", "interview date", "pool date" and "any other date" to be added to the list. The class date will be added later.

Finally, we'll get the board administrator to post this list with the heading FDX Pool List at the top.

How many poolies do you all have out there?

 

[LEROY]

My guess is there are roughly 30 in the current pool, but as they continue to interview (and hire, presumably) without starting classes, the number will grow. I interviewed 15 and 16 July and got called 26 July. I believe they go by interview date for class date, but I could be wrong.

4 out of 6 of us on my interview date were hired.

 

[FedEx]

I just talked to KD and she told me that the company will continue to interview in Sept, and maybe into Oct. I asked her when she thought that I might start class and she said that I would probably to in the 3 or 4 class when they start up again. I interviewed on July 15-16.
Hope this helps.

 

[active_herk]

This just out today from the asst chief pilot for 727 S/O:

"* Hiring: the second class in September has been canceled. No further hiring until sometime after the start of the New Year. There is a pool of about 80 who have been through the interview process waiting to be called."

Hope this info helps.

 

[LEROY]

Does anyone know how many-stop-loss hires are in this pool? From early June (approx. the last interview date not started) through the end of July only about 30 were put in the pool, according to my feeble estimation. 80 sounds like a lot. Am I overlooking a large group of new hires???

 

[active_herk]

Sorry, but I can't help you with how many of these 80 are stop loss people. I'm only quoting what the asst chief pilot of 727 S/Os said. I can only imagine that if he said they have 80 in the pool it must be around that number. I don't know why he would intentionally mislead the crewforce. Hope this helps.

 

[active_herk]

Stop loss is an order given by the leadership to military members which locks them into military service and as long as it is in place, military members cannot seperate to the civilian world. Its instituted during a time of national crises (i.e. after 9/11). The military had a stop loss a while and were just released from it a few months ago.

 

[w8n4swa]

OK, I see 4 in the FDX pool so far:

Houseopain Interview date ???

Leroy Interview date 15/16-Jul-02

MadDogPilot Interview date 21/22-Jun-02

FedEx Interview date 15/16-Jul-02

Let say we get a minimum of 10 before we post a list. Anyone else?

Also, post if you have a pool date or a call up date. Leroy shows pool date of 26-Jul-02...right?

 

[Rock]

I'm in the pool. I interviewed August 2001. I was a little busy after Sept 11 (last year) and couldn't accept a class date until Sept 23 (this year). Now I guess I'll be waiting a little longer.

 

[backflip]

Throw me in. I interviewed 9-10 July and got the call 26 July.

backflip

 

[LEROY]

w8n,
Again, I'm not sure if FedEx uses the date of "the call" for pool position or if they just use interview date to determine when to start someone. But yes, I got "the call" on 26 Jul.

 

[flying]

Put me in

Throw me in the pool. Interviewed 1-2 July, called with good news on 25 July. Now we wait.


flying

 

[MaxFly]

One more

Interviewed 21/22 May.

Don't remember when they called back.....about a month later.

Waiting to hear more.

Max

 

[U2FDX]

May 20 & 21'st interview

June 10 pool letter

Aug. 8 call for Sep. 23 class date

class cancelled around two weeks ago.

Avail: 10 months ago

I have no idea how the pool senority works; other than your interview date. I think class senority is based on the last 4 digits of your Social Security #.

 

[houseopain]

Ditto

Same as U2FEDX

Interviewed May 20/21st...ten days later hired by phone call; letter followed shortly after. Message left for the Sep 23rd/30th class in early Aug and once I returned the call from KD the bad news started...The Finance Dept told KD to stop offering anymore class dates!

 

[w8n4swa]

We got 10...

After reading the "Anyone in the FEDEX hiring pool?" thread, I count at least 10 FDX poolies to start a list. Still have a couple questions:

1. What actually determines the order of poolies? Is it the call date or the interview date?

2. Should we include an "Available Date" for those still in the military or those civilians who are not yet ready for class? If so, we'll need everyone to state their availability date.

In the meantime, I'll put a list together to be sent to the board administrator. I know he's at the NBAA convention this week so it may take a few days before it gets posted.

Thanks to everyone for the information,

W8n4swa

 

[falconpileit]

hiring timeline

A corporate friend of mine has applied online to Fedex. He has tons of heavy corporate experience. He's had the letters of reference, the buddy carry his paperwork into the chief pilot etc etc.

That process started 13 months ago but he hasn't heard a single word from Fedex. He continues to do his updates online and keeps his fingers crossed. Can any of you guys pass along the time line of how things happened for you in the hiring process.

Thanks,

 

[Kav]

I'm in the pool also

Sorry for the late reply...been away for awhile.

I'm in the pool as well.

Interview date: 3-4 June 2002

Pool Call date: 26 July 2002

Availability: Immediately, if not sooner!


Thanks W8n4SWA,

Kav

 

[w8n4swa]

Sorry it's taken so long to get this list going...lots going on at home & work right now. Putting the list together and when I get back from a 3 day trip this week I'll send it in.

 

[MoneyShot]

SPLASH!!!



I'm jumping in with you!

Interview 19/20 aug

good call 18 Sept

available immediately (aren't we all?)

 

[KAFTKTA]

Ka-SPLAAAASH!!!


I'm in the pool too!

Interview 27/28 aug

good call 19 Sept

available immediately

 

[TTBoy]

Thanks to w8n4swa for the leg work. I interviewed 3/4 June and got the good news 21 June. Now swimming with the rest of you in a pool that is in dire need of shocking!

Talked to KD on several occasions (all conversations were pre-cancel)...she gave the impression that the 3/4 June interview class was on the bubble for the cancelled 30 Sep class. Optimistically, that would put some of us in the second class after training resumes.

'Sup Leroy.

MaxFly, do you live in NY?

TTBoy

 

[FedEx]

Has anyone seen the list for the pool? Still waiting to see the list that w8n4swa is putting together.

 

[w8n4swa]

Sent in the list this morning..

Hey all,
Again..sorry for the delay getting this list started. I just sent in the list this morning...17 members strong. The system administrator mentioned something about file size and disk space...the swa pool list file is rather large and may require a change of format to shrink ths size. Hopefully we'll see the FDX Pool List posted soon. Thanks for your patience,

W8n4swa

 

[Huck]

Word on the inside is they cancelled the classes because the other aircraft programs (A-300, DC-10, etc.) were falling behind the 727 in all the upgrade training required. In other words, 727 training ramped up to replace alot of people who are not leaving the plane as fast as planned. That's better news than my first assumption - that the slumping economy was affecting us.

Good luck guys. It's a blast here.

 

[Rock]

Slumping economy?? Hopefully this economy will "slump" for a while because Fedex is currently kicking butt! Passenger airlines are taking it on the chin, but they've had it coming a long time before Sept 11. Folks who've been with Fedex for a couple years say a break in training over the Christmas Season is standard. If I have to wait a few more months to join the only flying company with a stock that has actually gained since September 11, than I guess life could be worse.

 

[AlbieF15]

Eaaasy there Rock. Your post might be mistaken for gloating (which I doubt it was), which in these tough times would be bad form.

It is true FedEx is doing well at the moment. We are lucky/blessed/insightful or whatever to be working there vice Delta, American, etc. However...as we go into contract negotiations in 2004, the last thing we want to see is concessionary contracts from our pax brothers. Remember...UAL and DAL contracts set a new standard. UPS next year will likely be our most attainable benchmark. In any case, we (as the pilot force) all do better when EVERYONE is doing well. Bruce Cheever said in our indoc class that FedEx was like Mohammad Ali....who Bruce claimed was the best boxer because he boxed as well backing up as he did going forward. The analogy is that FedEx's aggressive cost control helps the company remain profitable, even in trying times like these.

One point to remember, however, is the same "cost control" formula means FedEx stays lean and "underhires". Guys who work overtime and sell back vacation, etc. make up the difference in capacity. Check previous posts on the issue--however--the tradeoff for young guys for the great job security (which we appreciate) is slower advancement for those of us on the property and longer waits in the pool for guys like you. Retirements might help drain the pool, as would mobilization of many of the military guys at FedEx if Iraq heats up. However...the best way to drain the pool is for the economy to start picking up, with a corresponding increase in freight volumes. Another economy issue--a LOT of over 60 guys are staying on the panel...I can't speak for them but if they are like the other 95% of people who invested in 401ks, etc. along the way I'm sure they aren't feeling as prosperous as they were in 2000. So...some retiring folks are simply "swapping seats" verses leaving the company. I met a nice jumpseater today who was an MD11 guy who will move to the panel on the 727 in December...but I don't know the percentage of guys who quit for good verses just change jobs.

Here's hoping EVERYONE is back on the job soon....