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What is the typical schedule like for a new hire at these two companines? How many days on the road at a time? Also, once off reserve what does the typical schedule look like? Thanks for the info.
 
overqualified said:
What is the typical schedule like for a new hire at these two companines? How many days on the road at a time? Also, once off reserve what does the typical schedule look like? Thanks for the info.
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This is a wide question with many answers. UPS- depends what A/C assigned and what base. If you are assigned the Mad Dog ANC, good chance you'll hold a line right out of training.

Days on the road- anywhere between 1 and 30, it all depends- plane and base.

Off reserve- once again depends what plane you are on. Example- 767 Int'l base gone for anywhere between 2 and 14 days. Wide variety of flying on this plane. Probably off reserve on this plane 1 1/2-2 years.
 
I'm currently a UPS newhire based in ONT. Right now I'm finishing up a 3 week reserve stint. This is not the norm. Reserve is usaully one on, one off -- or two on, two off. I got screwed on the transition.

Reserve can go senior. Right now guys that have been out here 6-8 months are holding a domestic line. If you're thinking about coming to UPS save up some money. Your first year you can plan on going in the whole about ten grand.
 
Thanks for the replies. What are the typical schedules for say someone at 3 years flying international and domestic, meaning how many days away from home at a time? thanks. I realize there are a wide variety but what do most bid for?
 
FLYfishin said:
Most International trips are 13 days long followed by 15 days off.
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Lots of the Int'l trips on the 767 are 5-7 days going eastbound. Westbound 7-13 days long.

Forgot to add- followed by a crapload of time off! 2-4 weeks if you bid correctly.
 
What about overtime, or making any extra cash the first year and so on? Whats typical gross pay 1st year, 2nd, ect...?
 
FLYfishin said:
I'm currently a UPS newhire based in ONT. Right now I'm finishing up a 3 week reserve stint. This is not the norm. Reserve is usaully one on, one off -- or two on, two off. I got screwed on the transition.

Reserve can go senior. Right now guys that have been out here 6-8 months are holding a domestic line. If you're thinking about coming to UPS save up some money. Your first year you can plan on going in the whole about ten grand.
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TEN GRAND!!!! Dude, I just got done with my first year and went through about 35,000!!! Maybe that's because I'm still living in my stupid friggin legacy pilot captain's house:rolleyes:
 
b747dogg said:
What about overtime, or making any extra cash the first year and so on? Whats typical gross pay 1st year, 2nd, ect...?
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You can pick up open time at UPS but it's paid at 100% not 150%. You can wait for JA calls that will pay $150 but that comes in spurts. They haven't called me for a JA in a long while.

First year pay is $33.33 an hour so I would imagine your gross would be around $33,000 - $38,000 depending on if you hold a line or not.
 
FLYfishin said:
I'm currently a UPS newhire based in ONT. Right now I'm finishing up a 3 week reserve stint. This is not the norm. Reserve is usaully one on, one off -- or two on, two off. I got screwed on the transition.

Reserve can go senior. Right now guys that have been out here 6-8 months are holding a domestic line. If you're thinking about coming to UPS save up some money. Your first year you can plan on going in the whole about ten grand.
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Sure beats starting pay on JB's E190 and living near JFK though.... Although I guess ONT is not much of an improvement - just sunnier weather....
 
I actually made a lot more my first year at jetblue. But second year pay as a UPS FO is more than an airbus captain at JB.
 
capt. megadeth said:
You can pick up open time at UPS but it's paid at 100% not 150%. You can wait for JA calls that will pay $150 but that comes in spurts. They haven't called me for a JA in a long while.

First year pay is $33.33 an hour so I would imagine your gross would be around $33,000 - $38,000 depending on if you hold a line or not.
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Sounds like scheduling is getting plenty of volunteers before they reach your level of seniority. I've been called for JA (ONT FO) probably 10 times in the last 3 weeks or so.
 
rocket bob said:
TEN GRAND!!!! Dude, I just got done with my first year and went through about 35,000!!! Maybe that's because I'm still living in my stupid friggin legacy pilot captain's house:rolleyes:
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I guess one advantage of never have made any good money at my previous airline jobs is that frugal life is the norm...

I'd say each month while on probation I either broke even or went ~$250-$500 into the red...Then again; I didn't spend any money in uniform, etc...

Overall benefits throughout my career will definitely make it all worth it...
 
Problow said:
megadeht, what does your schedule consist of over the course of a few months. Thanks
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The last few months I did Monday through Thurs. or Friday day trips consisting of one leg a day. A few months before that I had some one or two leg a night night trips that was week on/week off. A few months before that I went to Asia for 12 days then a 7 day trip to Asia. This month I am doing one to two leg day trips as well as a 12 day to Asia.

Keep in mind that a lot of this was trip trading. I check open time every day and I am always looking for better trips. I also pick up open time here and there and I still feel like I am always off.
 
capt. megadeth said:
The last few months I did Monday through Thurs. or Friday day trips consisting of one leg a day. A few months before that I had some one or two leg a night night trips that was week on/week off. A few months before that I went to Asia for 12 days then a 7 day trip to Asia. This month I am doing one to two leg day trips as well as a 12 day to Asia.

Keep in mind that a lot of this was trip trading. I check open time every day and I am always looking for better trips. I also pick up open time here and there and I still feel like I am always off.
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What do you get for scheduled days off a month, for reserves and line holders? Thanks.
 
What are the domestic lines out of ONT like? And can you drop reserve days if you pick up trips?
 
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How long does it take to hold a line on the 767?


It varies greatly from domicile to domicile. First of all we have 4 domiciles for the 757 & 767 (no matter which domicile you get based at - you will fly both the B757 and the B767)

The choices are:
SDF - 757/767 domestic (domestic, Canada and Mexico),
SDFZ - 757/767 international (Europe AND everything the domestic domicile covers),
MIA - 757/767 (domestic, Central and Latin America),
ONT - 757/767 (domestic, ANC, Hawaii, and Pacific Rim flying).

I am ONT based and am 2 years junior to my friends who are based in SDFZ but I think I get better schedules than they are.
2 months after completing IOE I held a VTO line (hard line created of trips dropped for vacation) which turned out to a week on week off line. 2 months later I held my first hard line. If you get based in MIA - most of the guys in my class got a hard line right after IOE as reserve goes very senior there. SDF (domestic) seems to be the most "senior" domicle of the 4.
 
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How bout living in Louisville. Do the folks living in domicile have a pretty good gig right off the bat? How hard is it to get Louisville right out of training?
 
How bout living in Louisville. Do the folks living in domicile have a pretty good gig right off the bat?

All I know is that Z pilots fly more domestic than in the past, that’s what my friends keep telling me. Maybe some SDF based pilots can fill in the blanks?

How hard is it to get Louisville right out of training?

This has been covered before but I don’t think people believe us, so here it goes – as a new-hire you’ll be based wherever they need you for that particular class. In other words, our new hires go to ALL fleets and ALL 4 domiciles. It’s not hard to get based in SDF if they happen to need a pilot for that domicile when your class date comes up.
 
psysicx said:
What are the domestic lines out of ONT like? And can you drop reserve days if you pick up trips?
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The ONT domestic lines vary. You either fly week on/week off next day air(night), or fly 2-4 days a week, anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks in a row mostly daytime.

On regular reserve, you can't trade with open time to pick up trips but you can preference trips. If a trip is in open time during your on call period, you can submit a preference for those trips during your previous on call period (12 hours prior I think). Clear as mud?

AV8OR- I think Z also goes to the Pac Rim and staffs the IRO flights.
 
The ONT domestic lines vary. You either fly week on/week off next day air(night), or fly 2-4 days a week, anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks in a row mostly daytime.


There are also week on week off day trips ;)

AV8OR- I think Z also goes to the Pac Rim and staffs the IRO flights.

You’re right I missed that.



Ps. 25 hours to go, but who’s counting?... :D
 

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