about 4300 currently on the rolls. 125 scheduled to retire in '05. Beyond that, 150+ per year for the next 10+ years (Age 60.......we'll see what that changes). Management confirmed 300 new hires have been approved for this year. Operations wants 500 this year and it will probably be approved (200 will have begun training by end april) (Bean counters waiting until new fiscal year to approve more hiring this calendar year). VP Ops recently told pilot group that over the next 5 to 10 years, our total pilot force could reach 5500 to 6000 (we'll see about that too). Boatloads of new (incremental) aircraft are coming (Airbus/MD11) as well as a replacement for the 727 (737 or 757).