Falcon 50ex

[LegacyDriver]

It was both Director of Ops and Asst Chief (?), but as you know they share the same name....

and yes, very nice guys, very professional.

They must feel terrible that they make you to fly such an "Overrated Piece of Sh*t" , as you call it above...

hy·per·bo·le
[hahy-pur-buh-lee]


–noun Rhetoric.
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

hy·per·bo·le

n. A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.



Falcon is overrated, but POS was over-the-top hyperbole.

Our DO is the DO. All the Chiefs are Chiefs. Nobody goes by both. They don't have the same first name as the DO either.

We have a pretty good bunch of guys. They know I like the Legacy better and you know what they say? Not a thing. They rib me good-naturedly by sticking NO LEGACY signs on my office and stuff like that. I'm allowed to express my individuality and I honestly don't think anyone is truly harmed by it. Then again, I don't talk about the airplane unless asked.

Until this thread came up I stayed out of the line of fire because it always ends up the same way: assaults on my character, skills, and intelligence. Not sure why that is always necessary just because I don't like a particular hunk of metal as much as you do. Whatever...

The only people who seem to care are guys like you without anything else to do. Then again, nobody I know who has met you in person takes you seriously. Sorry to break the news.

The Falcon is fine. It does the job. It pays my bills. But if I were king of the universe I'd probably pick another airplane. More importantly, if I were Falcon I'd tweak the airplane a bit and make it more like the EMB in the areas that the EMB does better. Then you'd have a really really awesome airplane.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

hy·per·bo·le
[hahy-pur-buh-lee]


–noun Rhetoric.
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

Falcon is overrated, but POS was over-the-top hyperbole.

Our DO is the DO. All the Chiefs are Chiefs. Nobody goes by both.

We have a pretty good bunch of guys. They know I like the Legacy better and you know what they say? Not a thing. They rib me good-naturedly by sticking NO LEGACY signs on my office and stuff like that. I'm allowed to express my individuality and I honestly don't think anyone is truly harmed by it.

The only people who seem to care are guys like you without anything else to do. Then again, nobody I know who has met you in person takes you seriously. Sorry to break the news.

The Falcon is fine. It does the job. It pays my bills. But if I were king of the universe I'd probably pick another airplane. More importantly, if I were Falcon I'd tweak the airplane a bit and make it more like the EMB in the areas that the EMB does better. Then you'd have a really really awesome airplane.

Oh I see....now the Falcon is fine....

my....we have quickly changed our tune!

 

[LegacyDriver]

Oh I see....now the Falcon is fine....

my....we have quickly changed our tune!

I have always said it was okay. But it is inferior to the Legacy. TREMENDOUSLY.

I haven't changed my tune, just my tone. Obviously you can't read even straight facts (note you accused me of crashing the sim three times when no such thing happened nor was said) so it is clear hyperbole is beyond your grasp.

I enjoy the give and take of a fun debate and I can get wrapped up in it as much as the next guy. However, you, Mr. G200, ALWAYS cross the line. This thread is no exception.

So, either discuss the airplane or I'm done here until the next Legacy bashing session.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I have always said it was okay. But it is inferior to the Legacy. TREMENDOUSLY.

I haven't changed my tune, just my tone. Obviously you can't read even straight facts (note you accused me of crashing the sim three times when no such thing happened nor was said) so it is clear hyperbole is beyond your grasp.

So, either discuss the airplane or I'm done here until the next Legacy bashing session.

Id say thats a good idea on your end......

 

[LegacyDriver]

Id say thats a good idea on your end......

And I'd say, "Thanks for the advice but you can keep it."

Nobody takes these boards seriously any way. Most of the people are a bunch of pot-stirring trolls like yourself with nothing better to do than poke people with sticks.

I think we would all be happier if you went back over to the "other" board and stayed there.

 

[LegacyDriver]

LD-

I have flown both airframes you speak of. I was one of the first to fly the 145 here in the US so I was pretty much a test pilot on the thing. Would you like the laundry list of everything that was a shortcoming on the airplane or the actual system failures I had. I really enjoyed climbing through 10,000' accelerating through 250 knots and around 290-300 kts, getting the sweet rumble in your lower back of the non existent tailplane flutter.

Point is, don't bull$hit a bull$hitter. No airframe is perfect.

One of the first to fly. Again, using *EARLY* versions to bash the current ones. No new airplane is without its bugs. Look at the 7X. It is going to have all sorts of problems for the first little while because it is a new airplane.

There's no tail flutter on the EMB unless you push it to Mach 0.92ish.

Don't try to out BS me, sir.

No airframe is perfect, but the Embraer gets the important stuff absolutely right.

 

[LJ45]

challenger 300, can't make them fast enough :uzi:

:beer:

 

[54fighting]

One of the first to fly. Again, using *EARLY* versions to bash the current ones. No new airplane is without its bugs.

My point is, when it first came out, it was a big POS. It is the original 180 jet. But after numerous mods, etc it turned out to be pretty decent. The Legacy is a corporate version of the 135/145. I would hope by that point all the bugs were worked out. You are making it sound like the Legacy is a brand new, off the shelf design that is flawless....far from the truth.

There's no tail flutter on the EMB unless you push it to Mach 0.92ish.

That was a very well publicized problem with the airframe. One that Embraer refused to acknowledge. However, take a look at the saw teeth they put up underneath the horizontal stab, they put those teeth there for a reason. Don't try to tell me what has or hasn't happened to me flying that plane.

Don't try to out BS me, sir.

From reading your posts, I don't think there is any danger in that.

 

[LegacyDriver]

My point is, when it first came out, it was a big POS. It is the original 180 jet. But after numerous mods, etc it turned out to be pretty decent. The Legacy is a corporate version of the 135/145. I would hope by that point all the bugs were worked out. You are making it sound like the Legacy is a brand new, off the shelf design that is flawless....far from the truth.

They have worked out all the bugs---like ten years ago for the RJ. Legacy Bugs were minor at worst and were fixed five years ago.


I never said it was "brand new.". I said it was more modern and ergonomic than anything I've seen from Dassault. The plane is pretty close to flawless in part because it is not "brand new.". It has 12 million fleet hours under its airframe design. It is rugged as all getout and a joy to fly.

That was a very well publicized problem with the airframe. One that Embraer refused to acknowledge. However, take a look at the saw teeth they put up underneath the horizontal stab, they put those teeth there for a reason. Don't try to tell me what has or hasn't happened to me flying that plane.

Well, you are either full of beans or we are talking about different things. The "flutter problem" was caused by anti-ice exhaust out of the horizontal stab causing vibration. It was *not* flutter. It was, however, fixed. Some 11.8 million flight hours have passed since this fictitious "flutter" problem without a single case of actual tail flutter in the EMB fleet.

From reading your posts, I don't think there is any danger in that.

I'm finding it amazing that some of you admit to reading my posts yet you manage to get everything twisted up between your eyes/brain and the keyboard.

 

[54fighting]

I said it was more modern and ergonomic than anything I've seen from Dassault.

You can't be serious with that statement can you? Primus 1000 still, right?