Falcon 10 - Single Pilot??

[CUEBOAT]

Has everyone heard the Connie Kalitta story? If not, you're about to...

He pulled up somewhere single pilot in a Learjet. Someone reported him to the FAA. When he returned to the airport he was met by his friendly inspector who asked him where his F/O was. He said he didn't bring one. The inspector said "I'm going to have to write you a violation". Connie said "You better write two of the mother lovers (obviously edited) 'cause I ain't taking the bus home!", got in, fired up and left.

hahaha Connie Kalitta sounds like one tough mofo

 

[Rick1128]

Single pilot

It depends. I know of a Lear 24 and a 25 that are flown single pilot legally under US registry. They operate in restricted catagory and the pilots have LOAs for that operation. I don't know of a Falcon 10 doing that though.

 

[joelo88]

just to add to the thread... I've heard that in Europe, the Falcon 20 was actually a single pilot plane but there had to be a "radio operator" in the right seat. Maybe this is the case with the 10 as well. As far as I know though, none of that matters in the US.

 

[UGAflyer]

It depends. I know of a Lear 24 and a 25 that are flown single pilot legally under US registry. They operate in restricted catagory and the pilots have LOAs for that operation. I don't know of a Falcon 10 doing that though.

This might apply. In some TV show I saw about private jets it made it look like Clay Lacy was flying a Lear(20 series) single pilot to his fly-in community...does anyone know if he really does or it was just the TV show??

 

[Rick1128]

No he flys it two pilot. The two lears in question are operated as inflight simulators by Calvin Arspan Corp. And they are operated in the limited category.

This might apply. In some TV show I saw about private jets it made it look like Clay Lacy was flying a Lear(20 series) single pilot to his fly-in community...does anyone know if he really does or it was just the TV show??

 

[G100driver]

Boys, the Falcon 10 is type certificated in the US with 2, yes, 2 pilots as the minimum crew required. Regardless of country of registry, two pilots are ALWAYS required. If operating in France, or any other JAA governed country, two TYPE RATED pilots are required.

Correct, with US registry and AFM that states that.

I do not know, however, if Fee-Fee's are operating the airplane SP. Any FSI guys who can answer this question?

 

[bocefus]

No Fee-Fees are operating this aircraft SP, their requirements are more stringent than the FAA, as stated earlier, both pilots must be type rated per the ICAO-JAA standard. FAA has been ignoring the ICAO standard for years and JAA is pushing back. This is why the FAA has recently proposed another level of type ratings for first officers.
As far as Fat Arse Clay Lacy and others like him go, no insurance company in the world is going to cover these guys to fly SP. What the hell is the advantage to flying these aircraft SP?? None! There will allways be the renegade Kallitta types, but there reallly is no legitimate reason to operate SP.

 

[Groundpounder]

There was a CitationJet operator in MHT that wanted to get a Falcon 10 and fly it single pilot, but the Feds told him there would be no way that he would be allowed. He ended up buying one of the first Premiers.

 

[400A]

No Fee-Fees are operating this aircraft SP, their requirements are more stringent than the FAA, as stated earlier, both pilots must be type rated per the ICAO-JAA standard. FAA has been ignoring the ICAO standard for years and JAA is pushing back. This is why the FAA has recently proposed another level of type ratings for first officers.
As far as Fat Arse Clay Lacy and others like him go, no insurance company in the world is going to cover these guys to fly SP. What the hell is the advantage to flying these aircraft SP?? None! There will allways be the renegade Kallitta types, but there reallly is no legitimate reason to operate SP.

Yeah, the co-pilot just does not spend much time up front. There is not much room up there with Clay's ego.

 

[bocefus]

I met the legend at Mojave once. He actually approached me and asked if he could come on board the aircraft and have a look. After some chit chat he proceeds to tell me how many bizillion hours he has in DC-8s and how he was the first guy at United to do this and that in a DC-8 and blah blah blah.

 

[400A]

I met the legend at Mojave once. He actually approached me and asked if he could come on board the aircraft and have a look. After some chit chat he proceeds to tell me how many bizillion hours he has in DC-8s and how he was the first guy at United to do this and that in a DC-8 and blah blah blah.

Probably forgot to mention he was a SCAB at UNITED though.

 

[AA717driver]

Where was pilotyip during the flight in question? TC

 

[Groundpounder]

While we are on the subject, has anyone on here flown a Falcon 10? They sure are sexy, but do they make good corporate birds?

 

[G100driver]

While we are on the subject, has anyone on here flown a Falcon 10? They sure are sexy, but do they make good corporate birds?

It was the 1st jet I ever flew. I loved it ... except when I stopped at Starbucks prior to getting to the hanger. It is a great airplane if your mission is 1000 miles or less. It does great trans-con provided that you do not mind stopping.

I would not trade my 1000 or so hours in the falcon 10 for anything.

 

[apcooper]

Can a married pilot fly the falcon 10 since a single pilot can not?