Falcon 10 - Single Pilot??

[G100driver]

Boys, the Falcon 10 is type certificated in the US with 2, yes, 2 pilots as the minimum crew required. Regardless of country of registry, two pilots are ALWAYS required. If operating in France, or any other JAA governed country, two TYPE RATED pilots are required.

Correct, with US registry and AFM that states that.

I do not know, however, if Fee-Fee's are operating the airplane SP. Any FSI guys who can answer this question?

 

[bocefus]

No Fee-Fees are operating this aircraft SP, their requirements are more stringent than the FAA, as stated earlier, both pilots must be type rated per the ICAO-JAA standard. FAA has been ignoring the ICAO standard for years and JAA is pushing back. This is why the FAA has recently proposed another level of type ratings for first officers.
As far as Fat Arse Clay Lacy and others like him go, no insurance company in the world is going to cover these guys to fly SP. What the hell is the advantage to flying these aircraft SP?? None! There will allways be the renegade Kallitta types, but there reallly is no legitimate reason to operate SP.

 

[Groundpounder]

There was a CitationJet operator in MHT that wanted to get a Falcon 10 and fly it single pilot, but the Feds told him there would be no way that he would be allowed. He ended up buying one of the first Premiers.

 

[400A]

No Fee-Fees are operating this aircraft SP, their requirements are more stringent than the FAA, as stated earlier, both pilots must be type rated per the ICAO-JAA standard. FAA has been ignoring the ICAO standard for years and JAA is pushing back. This is why the FAA has recently proposed another level of type ratings for first officers.
As far as Fat Arse Clay Lacy and others like him go, no insurance company in the world is going to cover these guys to fly SP. What the hell is the advantage to flying these aircraft SP?? None! There will allways be the renegade Kallitta types, but there reallly is no legitimate reason to operate SP.

Yeah, the co-pilot just does not spend much time up front. There is not much room up there with Clay's ego.

 

[bocefus]

I met the legend at Mojave once. He actually approached me and asked if he could come on board the aircraft and have a look. After some chit chat he proceeds to tell me how many bizillion hours he has in DC-8s and how he was the first guy at United to do this and that in a DC-8 and blah blah blah.

 

[400A]

I met the legend at Mojave once. He actually approached me and asked if he could come on board the aircraft and have a look. After some chit chat he proceeds to tell me how many bizillion hours he has in DC-8s and how he was the first guy at United to do this and that in a DC-8 and blah blah blah.

Probably forgot to mention he was a SCAB at UNITED though.

 

[AA717driver]

Where was pilotyip during the flight in question? TC

 

[Groundpounder]

While we are on the subject, has anyone on here flown a Falcon 10? They sure are sexy, but do they make good corporate birds?

 

[G100driver]

While we are on the subject, has anyone on here flown a Falcon 10? They sure are sexy, but do they make good corporate birds?

It was the 1st jet I ever flew. I loved it ... except when I stopped at Starbucks prior to getting to the hanger. It is a great airplane if your mission is 1000 miles or less. It does great trans-con provided that you do not mind stopping.

I would not trade my 1000 or so hours in the falcon 10 for anything.

 

[apcooper]

Can a married pilot fly the falcon 10 since a single pilot can not?

 

[suen1843]

Many years ago I operated a Falcon single pilot for about 300 hours. There was a "co-pilot" sitting on the right, but he was so useless that it might as well have been a single-pilot operation. Might even have been better if he just stayed at home.

 

[ultrarunner]

THE BEST JET I HAVE EVER FLOWN. Well over 2000 hours in the 10. The comment on just up to 1000 miles is a bit off, as it was a very comfortable 3 hr airplane (@ 470 kts).

1700 first hour

1500 second

1300 third

which left plenty left over with 5900 lbs on board.

Plenty comfortable with 4 or 5 on board. A bit tight with 6 or 7. Tailcone baggage is a must. And the 19.4 MTOGW SB is also needed if you're filling the seats, baggage and fuel (seven seaters anyway).

Most BOW's ran about 11,800 for a non-TR bird to 12,200 for a later TR birds. Most have the 18.750 GW. I believe all the 100's had the 19.4 GW SB. And I have flown older 10's that had the SB as well. Which was very handy, especially with the over water gear on board and packed to the gills.

Great plane, economical. And if a buyer doesn't need coast to coast range, you can't beat it for a million bucks or so.

 

[G100driver]

Ultra is correct.

I have flown the airplane from the west coast to Chicago and from MSP back to the west coast.

The airplane did fine. Any airplane that you have to dehydrate yourself to fly though is about a 2.5 hour airplane IMHO.

 

[some_dude]

The hot and high performance left something to be desired, as I recall. Otherwise not a bad airplane. I'd happily fly one again if the opportunity came up.