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Why didn't the Senate ask the airlines in question, "Why didn't you hire mature professionals to fly your aircraft"

"Well, Senator, those types don't much care for the $1500 a month we pay. They're out getting MBAs and such. If they don't apply, we can't hire them."

"Well, can't you pay them more?"

"Please Senator, the wage scale we have today is the result of carefully playing the multiple crises that have arisen since 2001. We can't afford to let all that hard work go to waste. Surely you understand."

"Understood. No further questions."
 
Well said! Except the Nw crew doesn't exactly fit your stereotype-
 
Get rid of autopilots and altitude bust will go through the roof, nav errors will increase, landing accidents will multiply etc,
What pilots cannot fly any more? We will go back to the good ole days at Zantop. Where if you wrote up the autopilot, you got the response, "We pay you to fly, earn your living" They fixed'em anyway.
 
This growing trend could be because we no longer fly modern airplanes, instead we program them. The planes fly themselves and the pilots watch, this can be boring. Get rid of the auto-pilots that will keep the pilots focused on their job. What do you think.

And you wonder why your career went in the crapper?
You truly are a management puke. Please do the world a favor and retire old man. You'd make the world a much safer place!
 
If Cops can drive around and type on there laptops, surely Pilots can monitor autopilot systems and type on there laptops.

There are how many flights a day in this country, and we've had a few unsafe incidents. The whole thing is a knee jerk reaction just like everything that the government gets into.
 
This growing trend could be because we no longer fly modern airplanes, instead we program them. The planes fly themselves and the pilots watch, this can be boring. Get rid of the auto-pilots that will keep the pilots focused on their job. What do you think.


Can you have a talk with the Line Check Airmen at my company? They all seem to think you're insane if the autopilot is not on at 600' AGL after departure or you turn it off prior to being established, configured and stabilized on the ILS.
 
Can you have a talk with the Line Check Airmen at my company? They all seem to think you're insane if the autopilot is not on at 600' AGL after departure or you turn it off prior to being established, configured and stabilized on the ILS.


In your company perhaps, out here the RTC's love the hand flyers:beer:
 
Can you have a talk with the Line Check Airmen at my company? They all seem to think you're insane if the autopilot is not on at 600' AGL after departure or you turn it off prior to being established, configured and stabilized on the ILS.

I would. But why would I step in to do what you should do? Stand up and tell them yourself and back it up with reason. Then hopefully your reputation as a pilot and employee garners enough respect for them to listen.
 
I've already said my piece to them. The post was an attempt to enlighten people as to the fact that some LCA's/company's don't like hand flying. Glad you've got me figured out though.
 
No assumptions- Ive experienced the same problem at a few companies-

If pilots are busting altitudes or having hard landings- that's a sign to handfly more, not less. Unfortunately, I've heard plenty of LCAs who argue just the opposite.
 
You missed the mark again Babbitt.

Congrats on a flawless record of failure.

...But your suit rocked on Capitol Hill for you performance.
 
You know, it you guys can't write without violating the FI TOS and your posts have to be deleted breaking up the thread... I think you all know the TOS rules on this.. if not, please go back and read them.. let the built in censor do the work.

You have become the new FI Barney Fife - in which pocket is your one bullet?
 
Nah DG- I was cursing pretty good in the post he deleted. My bad y'all.

Sorry but the word ******************** is as comfortable for me as the word 'the'
:)
 
Yeah, let’s keep reducing pay, work longer hours, keep increasing retirement age and basically crater our retirement plans. Yup, that ought to help clean up the professionalism problems in the industry.
AA767AV8TOR :puke:
(20 years in the right seat and counting!)
 
What pilots cannot fly any more? We will go back to the good ole days at Zantop. Where if you wrote up the autopilot, you got the response, "We pay you to fly, earn your living" They fixed'em anyway.

Yep, my balls are huge, my $%^& is big, I don't need no autopilot. Come on YIP, put on your management hat. What do you employ pilots to accomplish? I'll tell you, you employee pilots to get an airplane and it's cargo safely from place to place. We don't get because we are the worlds finest hand flyiers, we get paid because we arrive safely at the destination. What would you do if you hired the best hand flier in existence but he kept running out of fuel? You'd fire him. You'd fire him because his job isn't hand flying, it's getting your payload to it's destination.

I hand fly when my other workload allows me to safely concentrate on the flight instruments. At other times, safety demands that I let the single minded autopilot do what it does best while I concentrate on what I do best. I can better scan for traffic when otto is flying. I can better reprogram the box when otto is flying. I can better converse with the FA's when otto is flying. I can better brief the approach when otto is flying, etc. But then again, I am secure in my own skin and don't attempt to impress anyone other than my kids.

Autopilots help avoid task overload. It's simple.


Edit: PS, I did hand fly a Lear and Maddog more than the Airbus. Flying the Airbus is just an exercise in fooling oneself into believing you matter for the ordinary.
 
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too serious

Yep, my balls are huge, my $%^& is big, I don't need no autopilot. Come on YIP, p.................to believing you matter for the ordinary.
come on don't take this too serious, I was only thinking of what had been said about auto-pilots once upon a time, back before GPS, RVSM, TCAS, and EGPWS. BTW still love the tractor
 

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