FAA changes SFO Landing Policies

[FlyingPieceOfSt]

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...o-landing-policy/story-e6frfkui-1226689008100

 

[Pattern-Master]

Maybe some of these foreign airlines should get there pilots in the sim and practice straight up visual approaches with no automation,get back to the basics of flying. I have instructed many foreign flight students in the past and most,not all, but most lacked basic eye hand coordination while flying the aircraft. However, they were very book smart. They could tell you how many rivets held the plane together and viscous makeup of the hydraulic fluid,but could not basically fly the airplane.

 

[Tripower455]

Makes almost as much sense as the new "rest" policies we're soon to be saddled with............

 

[crxpilot]

And what about the rest of our airports they fly into?

 

[FlyinGuy]

I don't always go into SFO, but when I do I always come in staggered.

Stay on speed my friends!!

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

Now for the lighter side

FWO = FLYING WHILE ORIENTAL = NO PHERIPHAL VISION = NO HAND EYE COORDINATION

DWO = DRIVING WHILE ORIENTAL = THE ABOVE ALSO

 

[pilot error]

Pathetic.

 

[scoreboardII]

Lets not mention the other side of the flipped coin, ATC keeping you high and fast till they say slow.

 

[CaptSeth]

Now for the lighter side

= THE ABOVE ALSO

By stating that you are attempting humor, you are not immunizing yourself from accusations of racism/bigotry.

 

[Flying Illini]

Are you kidding me?! How about they learn to fly in this country as opposed to us changing our policies and procedures to fit their skill-set.

 

[pilot error]

Lets not mention the other side of the flipped coin, ATC keeping you high and fast till they say slow.

So if you are kept high and fast it's ok if you can't fly a visual approach or say "unable?"

 

[waveflyer]

Now for the lighter side

FWO = FLYING WHILE ORIENTAL = NO PHERIPHAL VISION = NO HAND EYE COORDINATION

DWO = DRIVING WHILE ORIENTAL = THE ABOVE ALSO

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...rrB-FkUUxtqtyMh3dxgFM-w&bvm=bv.50165853,d.cGE


And their women have a brain a third the size of a man...^^^

 

[DCAA320]

Now for the lighter side

FWO = FLYING WHILE ORIENTAL = NO PHERIPHAL VISION = NO HAND EYE COORDINATION

DWO = DRIVING WHILE ORIENTAL = THE ABOVE ALSO

You are stupid.

 

[Varmint]

Are you kidding me?! How about they learn to fly in this country as opposed to us changing our policies and procedures to fit their skill-set.

Nuke 'em all, right?

 

[becket]

By stating that you are attempting humor, you are not immunizing yourself from accusations of racism/bigotry.

If I'm cheating on a written test, I'm looking at the Asian guys paper. If I want to survive an actual emergency, I want a gringo flying that plane. It's not racist to acknowledge that very real cultural differences exist and for whatever reason, many Asian cultures don't mix ideally with Aviation.

I think on some level, we all know this is true.

 

[Grandpa +65]

If you can't landed in a VMC conditions, wind calm and 200 miles visibility, Then, You should not be a pilot....

 

[dicko]

If I'm cheating on a written test, I'm looking at the Asian guys paper. If I want to survive an actual emergency, I want a gringo flying that plane. It's not racist to acknowledge that very real cultural differences exist and for whatever reason, many Asian cultures don't mix ideally with Aviation.

I think on some level, we all know this is true.

I'm a big fan of generalisations. Huge time saver. But .... ever heard of a nice Japanese gentleman called Saburo Sakai ? I've got a feeling he wasn't the only Japanese fighter pilot that could fly. In his case, he could do it after being hit in the face with a 50 Cal. round.

http://www.acesofww2.com/japan/aces/sakai/#.UftdTMsaySM

 

[scoreboardII]

Sort of hit in the face, last time I checked, a 50cal in the face was life altering.

 

[bri5150]

Any thoughts on this putting SFO over the edge and becoming slot controlled?

 

[T-1GUY]

You said "slot".. Hee HHee HHEee Hhee, Beavis...

 

[Wolf King]

I'm a big fan of generalisations. Huge time saver. But .... ever heard of a nice Japanese gentleman called Saburo Sakai ? I've got a feeling he wasn't the only Japanese fighter pilot that could fly. In his case, he could do it after being hit in the face with a 50 Cal. round.

http://www.acesofww2.com/japan/aces/sakai/#.UftdTMsaySM

Here's the deal..... Aisian airlines that hire asian pilots typically start them from scratch, you know, the ab initio thing. They get ramrod training (color in the lines) then may sit on a big jet for years before ever really touching the controls. Eventually they do, but have never really had any time just screwing off and making mistakes on their own. Hence, when the stuff hits the fan, no depth of experience to fall back on. It is not necessarily a race issue (although asian culture is obviously different from pure western culture), but one more of pure experience and learning. Most of us in the good old USA learn more from screwing around in GA or on the government dime in the military. It is safe to say (and I have flown for asian airlines) that a typical asian carrier flown by asian crews will have their hands full flexing to a different gameplan, as is often appropriate when flying in the good old USA.

 

[CX880]

This is pretty stupid. In fact they should require these carriers to fly along side other US planes on every visual approach inti SFO so as to have guidance... they might have known they were low and slow

 

[Jetjockey]

Either your crews qualified or they are not. Why is it acceptable for the FAA to institute different rules for foreign carriers?

The hard reality is the FAA is admitting they aren't as qualified as US crews. Hence the different application of procedures.

 

[NERVOUS]

If I'm cheating on a written test, I'm looking at the Asian guys paper. If I want to survive an actual emergency, I want a gringo flying that plane. It's not racist to acknowledge that very real cultural differences exist and for whatever reason, many Asian cultures don't mix ideally with Aviation.

I think on some level, we all know this is true.

AMERICA! F**ck YEAH!!

Uhhhh, no. Not on any level do "we" know this to be true.

 

[tankerhead]

You don't pay enough attention to your fellow drivers and their skill sets. Or lack thereof.

 

[Ben Franklin]

The hard reality is the FAA is admitting they aren't as qualified as US crews. Hence the different application of procedures.

The FAA isn't speaking to their qualifications.

Qualified pilots all look the same on paper however, some pilots end up in the dirt while others end up banging the hot FA that night after a normal landing and a few cocktails.

 

[scoreboardII]

Interesting, what ever became of the pilots toxicology reports?

 

[AKAAB]

Interesting, what ever became of the pilots toxicology reports?

There were none. The FAA pointed out early on that they did not have the authority to force them to be tested. Ironic. If you bang something up in Korea, you'd be in jail on their "authority".

 

[livin'thesim]

By stating that you are attempting humor, you are not immunizing yourself from accusations of racism/bigotry.

relax. I think it was the slant-range distance error that got them.

 

[livin'thesim]

AMERICA! F**ck YEAH!!

Uhhhh, no. Not on any level do "we" know this to be true.

I'd rather have my loved ones aboard an airplane flown by Americans, Canadians, or the more highly-advanced European nations any day.

The Koreans are following a path of technology worship and lack of stick skills. Anyone who spends long enough teaching international students in sims KNOWS this.

If you don't know this, it's because you've sworn an ego-oath to blank-slate equalitarianism. Some cultures don't mix with aviation very well.

...PERIOD.