F-16 ANG Unit

[Frisko]

How is the QOL? What is first year pay?

You were joking right? I'd say flying Vipers in California speaks for itself in the QOL category.

 

[psysicx]

What do you mean they farm out? Phoenix isn't bad except for three months. Are the people in the 302nd just going to the 301st or Tucson?

 

[peter185]

FSM is getting A-10's so your friend should be okay.

 

[talondriver]

What do you mean they farm out? Phoenix isn't bad except for three months. Are the people in the 302nd just going to the 301st or Tucson?

The farming out is similar to the SUPT reserve squadrons who's pilots are blended in with the active duty IPs. At CBM, each active duty flight has a group of reservists (TRs and usually one AGR) assigned to it for flying purposes only.

I don't think the 302d is an associate squadron. They own their jets.

 

[psysicx]

Does anybody know if the Luke units hire off the street like the other FTU squadrons?

 

[hindsight2020]

you meant "unlike the other FTU squadrons". Get your random questions bank updated....

 

[psysicx]

No all of the other FTU squadrons hire people off the street. Get you comment right.

 

[hindsight2020]

Alright, educate me then. Name one Guard/Reserve FTU that has hired an off-the-street guy in the past two FYs....

 

[psysicx]

The unit out of San Antonio and Tucson hire people off the street. Both of them are FTU's. You do your 18 month seasoning at another unit before becoming an F-16 IP.

 

[stonewall]

You'll need more than 18 mos to become an F-16 IP, even an FTU one. Well, a good IP, anyway.

 

[AlbieF15]

...Tyndall has NEVER hired a guy off the street to become an IP...

Most guys if they work and apply themselves can make IP, but the fact is there are some guys who just never will. Additionally, there are guys who COULD but due to the high experience in their unit there isn't an overwhelming need to upgrade anyone in a timely manner. I'm NOT saying Kelly/Springfiled haven't hired off the street for IP jobs, but I suspect their is more to the story--perhaps they were trading slots with an ops unit to get someone from another unit into the FTU, or perhaps this "off the street" guy had already flown F-16s but needed a TX course (requal) verses a B course (initial training).

...been wrong before...will be again...

 

[psysicx]

Isn't 18 months all the fighter guys get for seasoning mayde it 2 years. But I know that Kelly has a board every year to hire people. Tucson only hires within and then they go back after seasoning. I'm not saying its the smartest thing.

 

[stonewall]

Yes, they get seasoning. But 18 mos of "seasoning" isn't enough time to make an IP outta ya.

 

[CrewDawg]

I think the Springfield, OH unit hired a guy off the street a few years back. He came to our unit and flew for a few years and just recently went back to be an IP.

 

[hindsight2020]

AlbieF15, thanks for the clarification, that was exactly my point to the random question generator; the likelihood of being hired by an FTU nowadays is null, so I stand corrected...