ExpressJet Strike Vote

[Ben Franklin]

I go sign one piece of paper in Phili, and Abi is doing the lateral tango.


DUEL, young man you have no knowledge about duels

And you thought that my Richard was poor!


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[CEO silly sap]

scope is a lack luster attempt to hamstring a company that gives you the privilage to fly for a living.

This has to be the most childish comments ever posted

 

[CEO silly sap]

And you thought that my Richard was poor!


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

Do you have nothing better to do than bog down a thread

 

[Prop Trash]

posted by Contract2002
Please tell me about Skywest Airlines' Scope Protection, and while you're at it smart guy, I would also like to hear about Horizon's Scope protection.

SkyWest is non-union so their negotiations aren't conducted under the Railway Labor Act and are not under the supervision of the National Mediation Board. We should only compare apples to apples here.

Even though the Horizon pilots are not represented by the Airline Pilots Association, they have a good scope clause. Is that what you want to know? I don't claim to know everything - why do you ask these questions?

And to answer your other question - What are the reasons NC can tell you things in person and not in print? It's called being "off the record." Even some of our negotiations take place like this. Being less formal can be more productive.

 

[contract2002]

SkyWest is non-union so their negotiations aren't conducted under the Railway Labor Act and are not under the supervision of the National Mediation Board. We should only compare apples to apples here.

Glad to hear that Skywest is safe from the whipsaw. Maybe I should have gotten hired there so that I would have job security for life. And my own planet when I die.

 

[contract2002]

Even though the Horizon pilots are not represented by the Airline Pilots Association, they have a good scope clause.

So their scope clause protects them from Alaska Air Group starting up another airline? If so, that is great for them. Maybe I should have gone there, but I smoke alot and I hear they are pretty firm about no smoke in the cockpit/workplace.

 

[contract2002]

It's called being "off the record." Even some of our negotiations take place like this.

If I gave a story to a news reporter and kept everything "off the record", there wouldn't be much of my side in the paper the next day. I hope that our negotiations are being conducted "FOR THE RECORD" so that we can get it in writing.

 

[Prop Trash]

posted by Contract2002
So their scope clause protects them from Alaska Air Group starting up another airline?

It protects the Horizon pilots from Horizon Air Industries, Inc. from starting another airline with pilots not on the Horizon Airlines seniority list, which is the same thing we at ExpressJet are asking for. Why do you keep asking questions about airlines that I don't even fly for? Do you just like to see me do useless research?

I hope that our negotiations are being conducted "FOR THE RECORD" so that we can get it in writing.

What's wrong with negotiating "off the record" "for the record?" Don't you remember what a big deal people were making when the NC was seen with management in a bar near the airport? All of the agreements will get written down the next day when everyone sobers up. [I'm joking, Neal.]

 

[Britpilot]

Seems he knows a lot more than you.

Please tell me about Skywest Airlines' Scope Protection, and while you're at it smart guy, I would also like to hear about Horizon's Scope protection. Or did they sell all of their 50 seat jets over the last 15 minutes?

Thanks alot for keeping the idiots informed on the industry.

My, my, some anger issues here, I think.
I would do as Mr. trash says and attend meetings, talk to Reps ect. Perhaps also a shrink for your issues.

 

[contract2002]

Perhaps also a shrink for your issues.

Can you refer me to yours? Sounds like everything is just ducky over on your end.

 

[Prop Trash]

Hopefully this thread is dead.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez - just curious for another outsider opinion - what should Mesa have done that Mesaba did?

FO

Brought a gun to knife fight. A strike is the ulitmate and best negotiating chip a union has.... Mesa never used the strike threat in real terms. I don't believe and neither did JO that Mesa would ever really strike.... Am I off base here? Any Mesa guys want to elaborate? Maybe AH?

 

[flap operator]

Rez - thanks - that's what I thought you meant. I like that a gun to a knife fight analogy! Too bad our MEC forgot the bullets.


FO

 

[Britpilot]

Can you refer me to yours? Sounds like everything is just ducky over on your end.

Certainly- Mr. Jack Daniels, if he is busy call Mr. John Walker.