ExpressJet or CHQ pool?

[Johnny Utah]

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated?

Also does anyone know how deep the CHQ pool is?

Thanks

Johnny

 

[ERJFO]

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated?

Also does anyone know how deep the CHQ pool is?

Thanks

Johnny

Going to CHQ would be a great idea, that is if they didn't pay their FOs the same amount to fly a 50 seat airplane as a 90 seat airplane.

 

[Axel]

Going to CHQ would be a great idea, that is if they didn't pay their FOs the same amount to fly a 50 seat airplane as a 90 seat airplane.

Another player who has yet to figure out the game.

 

[rtmcfi]

Another player who has yet to figure out the game.

I would say he refuses to be played. With mainline finally putting their feet down re. scope, the regionals growth will slow down. When the music stops, I hope you are being well compensated for your chair. If you are fortunate enough to land in the left seat, I hope you can look to your right, and not have to apologize for myopically sacrificing your peers pay and QOL for your quick upgrade.

 

[flatspin7]

This is like a high school dance... You may ask a few and strike out so you dance with the one that says yes first... even though she has acne and braces!

 

[kngarthur]

Going to CHQ would be a great idea, that is if they didn't pay their FOs the same amount to fly a 50 seat airplane as a 90 seat airplane.

Upgrade is so fast that it's worth the trade off. Also Why should any newhire make more than someone else, just because it has more seats?

 

[Launchpad]

Loc dog,

I hope your last post was flame bait. Prepare for incoming.

 

[RP170]

I would say he refuses to be played. With mainline finally putting their feet down re. scope, the regionals growth will slow down. When the music stops, I hope you are being well compensated for your chair. If you are fortunate enough to land in the left seat, I hope you can look to your right, and not have to apologize for myopically sacrificing your peers pay and QOL for your quick upgrade.

I hope if you are in the left seat at Express Jet you don't have to look at the new hire next to you in the right seat and have to appologize to them when they will most likely be furloughed in 2007 after losing 69 aircraft. I've been a victim of furlough once already. Don't let your career possibly begin by worrying about that. Personally, I don't think that risk is worth it.

That being said, I hope you consider that factor in chosing the right pool for you.

 

[psysicx]

How quick is upgrade at CHQ?

 

[RP170]

Upgrade is definitely slowing at CHQ. I'd say it's at about 2.5-3 years right now. Job security is good at the moment however.

 

[Superpilot92]

choose the one with the base you want in the long run. Everyone here at XJET is happy for the most part and most people here dont believe anyone is getting furloughed. But it is a risk. About the 69 airframes Xjet has the first right on those planes and CAL hasnt said if they arent going to keep us flying them for them anyway. It could happen but truthfully no one knows exactly whats going to happen with the airplanes. But from what i understand CHQ just lost the rest of the E170 orders for USAIR so upgrade isnt that quick there either. On a positive note there are some signs of possible additional flying coming to XJET. We just got an email stating its in the works and the company is talking with our union about getting negotiations in the works. So we will see. Bottom line= Todays right choice is tomorrows wrong choice. Good luck with your choice.

 

[RP170]

Airways is flying the 190. There are still many many options for the entire 170/190 family of aircraft for US Airways. If they decide to exercise any of those to the 170 family of aircraft they will be flown by CHQ. One thing to remember is not to base your decision on potential or future codeshares that people talk about. Most of the time they end up being just that: rumors. Go where there is factual information and job security. That's the best advice I can give.

 

[RP170]

What are the rumors there at X Jet?

 

[Superpilot92]

Airways is flying the 190. There are still many many options for the entire 170/190 family of aircraft for US Airways. If they decide to exercise any of those to the 170 family of aircraft they will be flown by CHQ.

I may be mistaken but i thought USAIR decided to get the 190 so they changed those options to 190s. Either way i think both would be a good choice. Both are good airlines giving the state of the industry. Good luck

 

[RP170]

I may be mistaken but i thought USAIR decided to get the 190 so they changed those options to 190s. Either way i think both would be a good choice. Both are good airlines giving the state of the industry. Good luck

Yep you are mistaken. There are still options that can be exercised as either 170 or 190's.

 

[Superpilot92]

There is no such thing as job security in this business.

 

[Superpilot92]

Yep you are mistaken. There are still options that can be exercised as either 170 or 190's.

Options for USAIR. Thats what i said.

 

[RP170]

There is no such thing as job security in this business.

That I know. Been furloughed once already. I just think that when 69 aircraft are on the chopping block that's about as far from security as one can get. Call me crazy I guess.

 

[RP170]

Options for USAIR. Thats what i said.

You don't understand. If they are exercised as 170 orders they will be flown at CHQ not Airways. There are options for whichever aircraft Airways wants to exercise: either the 190 or 170.

 

[Superpilot92]

I agree with you and am not trying to start a pissing match. As i stated prior both companies are good companies. CHQ might be a better choice for some and XJT might be a better choice for others. I have a buddy who is finishing training right now here and yes he is concerned but as i stated prior everyone is optimistic and some good things MAY be around the corner. What if it does go good here? Then it will be the place to be again. Sometimes the wrong decision is the right decision tomorrow it works both ways. To each his own. Both are good companies plain and simple.

 

[RP170]

I agree with you and am not trying to start a pissing match. As i stated prior both companies are good companies. CHQ might be a better choice for some and XJT might be a better choice for others. I have a buddy who is finishing training right now here and yes he is concerned but as i stated prior everyone is optimistic and some good things MAY be around the corner. What if it does go good here? Then it will be the place to be again. Sometimes the wrong decision is the right decision tomorrow it works both ways. To each his own. Both are good companies plain and simple.

I agree. Well said.

 

[flynfarr]

Awwwwww, you two made up. How sweet. GET A ROOM!

(Actually I'm just trying to be a d!ck, it was actually nice to see an almost normal discussion on this board.)

 

[Superpilot92]

Awwwwww, you two made up. How sweet. GET A ROOM!

(Actually I'm just trying to be a d!ck, it was actually nice to see an almost normal discussion on this board.)

LOL thats funny, some people on here actually do like to discuss issues.

 

[UnableDirect]

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erjFO, boy you seem like one pleasurable human being, seeing the quality and compelling nature of your similar posts today.... you've sure made quite a case in favor of whatever it is you are trying to say.. thanks for saving me.

 

[Vref75]

Rp170

Rp170 . ..

i didn't know that CHQ was flying E170's. Last i check in the company board, they fly e145/140/135's. .. . . . . do you mean republic airlines is flying the e170's for usairways?

 

[Capt.PoopyPants]

Another player who has yet to figure out the game.

Unfortunately in this game, Republic Holdings FO's are treated like autistic waterboys.

 

[Yudso]

What about the Delta situation?

 

[RP170]

Rp170 . ..

i didn't know that CHQ was flying E170's. Last i check in the company board, they fly e145/140/135's. .. . . . . do you mean republic airlines is flying the e170's for usairways?

That's correct. It's all the same seniority list.

 

[saviboy]

Upgrade is so fast that it's worth the trade off. Also Why should any newhire make more than someone else, just because it has more seats?

because the pilots are responsible for more lives, thats why.
no offense, but its because of this kind of behavior (race to fast upgrade) that wage at a lot of airlines is ridiculous.
F/o or not, regional, or major airline pilot, prop or jet, we are still highly trained and highly responsible individuals who deserve a little more money that a bus driver or a mailman.