ExpressJet Dilemma

[embdrvr]

First year pay sucks at all the regionals.

3 to 4 years later you're in the left seat making 60-70K.

Is it worth it? You decide.

I'll take another paycut the first year at a major. Should I stay at a regional to avoid that paycut? (rhetorical question)

 

[boxjockey]

C-12


You're gonna love this place. Training was great. All of the captains I've flown with have been cool as sh!t, and so far even the reserve schedule hasn't been that bad. The contract crap will get sorted out sometime in the next decade, then hopefully things will be all good.

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[DHPFLYN]

Are you paid during training? Also wondering how long the training last? What is the typical time you are on reserve? What is the upgrde time? When I talked to them I was told 3-4 years.


Thanks for any information

 

[hagen]

I'm 3.5 years and now holding a line in IAH..Things are starting to move pretty quick I believe upgrades went to 06/00 hires (Ewr based short bus captain) so maybe we will see something in the next year or so..I think I need to find my logbook first though......I put it away 3 years ago...Haven't seen it since...all those little books are starting to add up!!!


Those numbers might be right might be wrong. I really don't know and really really don't care...I'll spend my days in the sun having fun and drinking beer...

Ate' Logo e Boa Sorte!!!

 

[captxxx]

CoEx Commute

From iah or Hobby you have 2 non-stop options with COMainline or a long cab ride to Hobby
and the LUV(WN-Southwest)crew. Being that you would be junior, your trips would probably end
late p.m. which makes Newark the better option to commute with numerous late departures from
jfk/phl & newark (especially via las) to san diego. As well as reliable rail transit connecting bos,jfk,ewr,phl,bwi,dca
airports giving you numerous jumpseat options if ewr flights are full; trains connect to the terminals
of all airports mentioned and that includes the ACELA train(130mph)---much cheaper & nicer than a cab.
Finally, get a parking pass for lax which will back you up getting out of the west coast if san diego has
heavy loads or wx.( I think they are $15 a month-pretty reasonable; contact me if you need info getting it)
Good Luck & Best Advice get an American Express Skyguide monthly airline timetable.

 

[mmmdonut]

UHH, for the record, IAH $ucks!!!

Why you ask?
3. Too may dorks with boots on

LOL... no **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**

 

[FSB99]

Vortilons are used to shed vortices over the upper surface of the wing at high angles of attack but present minimal drag at cruise speeds. They were first developed for the DC-9-10 series so the technology has been around for quite a while. The only other aircraft that I'm aware that uses vortilons is the Long-EZ. You'd think with the simplicity and benefits that more would take advantage of them.

so that's what they're for? i thought they were yard rakes.....

 

[Nova]

....or the rumored name given to them by a new hire years ago during his oral with Mr. A., "Beaumont Rakes." ouch.

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

Sorry, but back to Mr. Shortsightedness(Cynic)

Year 1: xjet:17k his (badass cfi job): a little more than 17k.
Year 2: xjet:25k his (badass cfi job): a little more than 17k.
Year 3: xjet:27k his (badass cfi job): a little more than 17k.
Year 4: xjet:29k his (badass cfi job): a little more than 17k.
Year 5: xjet:52k his (badass cfi job): a little more than 17k.
Year 9: xjet:75k his (badass cfi job): a little more than 17k.

Wow, Cynic it looks like you made the right descision.... True, payrates need to come up at Xjet. Why are you "lowering" yourself to cfiing for $20 an hour? CFI's should be paid much more, but loosers like you practically cfi for free...

Works both ways doesn't it.....Talk about the Pot calling the Kettle black....

 

[Paul R. Smith]

cynic

Your not a cfi are you? Your an Exjet pilot with a bad sense of humour. Admit it, your that "three-cup guy" i hear about from the FAs. I may bitch and moan about this company just as much as the next xjt pilot but when I hear from my old college buddies about the goings on at PDT, MSBA, I get a reality check and realize that its just the pay that sux. Oh yeah and (s)crew scheduling. Cheer up @ssh0le.

 

[FSB99]

Hey now.. no need to insult ol' 3-cup like that... he's a good guy.. just a little 'unique.'

 

[skootertrash]

Hey now.. no need to insult ol' 3-cup like that... he's a good guy.. just a little 'unique.'

Heck I would be too if someone walked into my prop!

 

[KingAirKiddo]

That’s just freakin great...

I’d like to personally thank you and every other working for peanuts pilot out there for taking the job. I had an interview and offer with Express Jet but turned it down. It looks like first year pay is maybe 18K. Add in the fact that you get paid nothing while in training and you might make 15K a year. Ahh yes, but then there is the $1.40 per-diem. So if you sit on the ground for 10 hours you get an extra $15.00.

Do you think you will be treated better later on; or have you just set a defacto standard for acceptable treatment and pay?

But hey, if you didn’t take that job somebody else would right? Or are you that guy?

Will you wine when you can’t get a decent paying job later on because there are none thanks to YOU?

Will you be surprised when you find yourself flying with idiots that are no fun to talk to all day because you get what you pay for with employees too?

I’m not angry… I enjoyed my brief stint as a professional pilot and I’d do it again. I am disappointed and I will laugh and laugh and laugh when you guys figure out what happened.

The majors will fly international routes only. (or did that already happen?)

There are fewer than a few hundred “Major” airline pilots that are ALL retired ex-military. (or did that already happen?)

The best you can hope for is 75K after 20 years and no retirement. (or did that already happen?)

With all due respect, just STFU.

The pay at ALL regional airlines sucks. ExpressJet is currently one of the few carriers negotiating to bring the standard up to where it should be. Did you do ANY research before you began your career?

KAK