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HA! Typical young kid's view... If XJT guys vote no and the company goes tits up, guess what: They held their ground, lost their jobs, and CHQ, Skyworst, and Mesa will have come in to pick up the pieces.
So your advice just killed a good company and gave the flying to cheaper companies...Not exactly saving the profession, now, are they?
There is no good choice in this economy, other than survival. Say hello to my friends at Bear Stearns and Lehman Bros.
Hardly a kid. Almost a dinosaur, actually.

Again, I wish nothing but the best for the Express Jetters and hope you all make the decisions that are best for your situation.

However, you are now faced with the same decisions that have faced the pilot groups the vocal few among you have been so quick to second guess. Contracts were negotiated in the face of slow economies and in the face of alter ego airlines. you have your own set of problems, but the situations are more similar than they are different.

So I say again: You have lambasted the other pilot groups for not holding the line under pressure, now it is your turn at bat. Show us what you've got.
 
So I say again: You have lambasted the other pilot groups for not holding the line under pressure, now it is your turn at bat. Show us what you've got.

I've lambasted no one.. I have better things to do with my time.. and I'll make the decision that is best for myself and my family. As Uncle Bunkle said, sinking the ship isn't going to fix a dam thing with the industry.
 
I beleive Mesa is still making money. XJT is not.

Nope.

Mesa cutting workforce as revenue drops - (Article 10-07-2008)
Mesa cutting workforce as revenue drops
Tuesday October 7, 2008
Facing a projected $250 million drop in revenue this year, Mesa Air Group is finding it impossible to "support the same level of overhead" and is reducing staff across the board, Chairman Jonathan Ornstein told ATWOnline yesterday.

"The company will be smaller this year and we needed to right-size the workforce to the new level of reductions," Ornstein said. "Reductions were made throughout the company at all levels. It was a very difficult process for everyone, me in particular." He did not disclose further details.

MAG reported a $3.7 million loss in its fiscal third quarter ended June 30, reversed from a $2.6 million profit in the year-ago period (ATWOnline, Aug. 20). In early August Delta Air Lines terminated its service agreement with Mesa subsidiary Freedom Airlines (ATWOnline, Aug. 6).

by Sandra Arnoult
 
So I say again: You have lambasted the other pilot groups for not holding the line under pressure, now it is your turn at bat. Show us what you've got.

Just because a few people don't know why Mesa has a crappy contract, for example, doesn't mean that all XJT pilots have to show anybody anything. There are bad apples everywhere. Anyways, captain rates will still be industry leading and fo rates will be in the top third.
 
The poor knowledge of how ALPA actually operates never ceases to amaze me.

Okay smartass, why don't you explain exactly what Prater and national is doing to tell us NOT to accept this, since they ran on the "taking it back" ticket to get elected. To whom my dues go to represent me.

The effect is what I said is still correct. If we vote it, they will sign it.
 
once all you kool aid chugging losers vote this in you can do us all a favor and can the "we're the best, nanny nanny boo boo" act.
 
once all you kool aid chugging losers vote this in you can do us all a favor and can the "we're the best, nanny nanny boo boo"
act.

WE ARE HELPING YOU BY DOING IT. Wow, people just don't get it. Thanks for not even being appreciative of us "no" voters who ARE willing to risk our jobs to help you.
 
Okay smartass, why don't you explain exactly what Prater and national is doing to tell us NOT to accept this, since they ran on the "taking it back" ticket to get elected. To whom my dues go to represent me.

The effect is what I said is still correct. If we vote it, they will sign it.

Prater can make up whatever slogan he wants but the fact of the matter is that no one other than the XJT MEC can make the decision to negotiate or ratify a TA. Prater or any of the national officers will NOT tell you to accept it because they have no authority to do so.
 
once all you kool aid chugging losers vote this in you can do us all a favor and can the "we're the best, nanny nanny boo boo" act.

By the way, IF this is ratified, captains will still be at the top of industry and FOs will be in the top third. Just the facts.
 
Thanks for not even being appreciative of us "no" voters who ARE willing to risk our jobs to help you.

Actually, many of us are appreciative. Thank you for standing up for yourselves and your profession. I hope you end up being in the majority, but I have my doubts.
 

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