Expressjet (ASA) MGMT managing by intimidation

[Abernathy]

What sickens me more than this is that ALPA is letting it happen.

 

[Abernathy]

Please exsplain.............

Leaving No. 2 running happens more often than I think most people realize.

I had one captain solve this problem entirely by starting the APU after every landing and shutting both down at the gate. As some outstations are APU qualified, it's a lot easier to pass the blame if you leave the APU running since there is obviously no accountability for station personnel Kidding, of course (kind of).

Most guys just stay seated until both are shut down.

 

[ASApuppy]

Word I heard about the birdstrike incident was that it happened under Capt windshield. Aircraft overnighted. It was hidden from view by jetway canopy and was discovered as they pulled it away in daylight. The flight attendent on the morning flight was our resident cheerleader with the initials PD. She got her panties in a wad and called our president at home to discuss why she was being held up by the inactions of her fellow "Get-r-Dun Teammates". What resulted was a top-down beating.

I avoid flying with her at all costs.

 

[No Delay]

What sickens me more than this is that ALPA is letting it happen.

silly. ALPA is for pizza and bbq....new guy

 

[Abernathy]

Word I heard about the birdstrike incident was that it happened under Capt windshield. Aircraft overnighted. It was hidden from view by jetway canopy and was discovered as they pulled it away in daylight. The flight attendent on the morning flight was our resident cheerleader with the initials PD. She got her panties in a wad and called our president at home to discuss why she was being held up by the inactions of her fellow "Get-r-Dun Teammates". What resulted was a top-down beating.

I avoid flying with her at all costs.

Hard to believe a suspension under those circumstances. Hope there's more to the story, or that the rumor is false to begin with.

 

[aircombat]

Maybe they want to guarantee a workforce by giving EVERYONE letters in their files so they can't get hired anywhere

It's getting a little ridiculous

I think there is something to your statement. I recently received a letter in my file for having my first, unavailable on reserve after 5 years of being on reserve. The CP made it a point to say that it could affect me being employed else were. I blew it off because I know better. They may be using it to intimidate certain people from even attempting to apply else were.

He also said that the reason they can't give leniency anymore is a direct result from ALPA. Apparently ALPA complained that some people were given leniency while others were not. The CP office responded by saying OK nobody gets leniency. I spoke with the grievance committee and they said they wouldn't do something like that. However, I can see them doing something like that and they would have a point unfortunately the result sucks.

 

[jmreii]

can't release the info in your file anyway.

Disciplinary action taken by an employer not overturned can be released as part of the PRIA. By the way the PRIA process has been extended covering a wide range of areas.

 

[Abernathy]

Disciplinary action taken by an employer not overturned can be released as part of the PRIA. By the way the PRIA process has been extended covering a wide range of areas.

It's true. They can also find out where you typically stored your water bottle in the cockpit.

I usually store mine behind the rudder pedals. They don't move around much that way.

 

[Abernathy]

The CP made it a point to say that it could affect me being employed else were.

What purpose did telling you that serve? To rub salt in the wound? Real classy.

Some of these guys are so miserable they belong in a cave.

 

[Nevets]

What purpose did telling you that serve? To rub salt in the wound? Real classy.

Some of these guys are so miserable they belong in a cave.

It served his purpose, that is to browbeat.

 

[Medeco]

Most of what you all are talking about is company policy, not contractual. You are talking about company culture that goes WAY back at ASA. Walrus the CP most well known for this kind of action is one who goes way back, and he has not been a part of any other company that does it different.

We need "personal days" negotiated into the new contract that allow a certain number in a given period, in addition to family funerals.

Unfortunately, there are employees who act like guys in High school, instead of professionals at work, and so this company treats all of us like High school teenagers.

Its a bad cycle, that will only stop with top down leadership.

 

[Freebrd]

You are talking about company culture that goes WAY back at ASA. Walrus the CP most well known for this kind of action is one who goes way back, and he has not been a part of any other company that does it different..

thought he was at Real Eastern, or PanAm, but anyway, he the one who goes on overnights with his FA gf, wonder what mgt would think bout that let alone wifey

 

[bacardi]

Most of what you all are talking about is company policy, not contractual. You are talking about company culture that goes WAY back at ASA. Walrus the CP most well known for this kind of action is one who goes way back, and he has not been a part of any other company that does it different.

We need "personal days" negotiated into the new contract that allow a certain number in a given period, in addition to family funerals.

Unfortunately, there are employees who act like guys in High school, instead of professionals at work, and so this company treats all of us like High school teenagers.

Its a bad cycle, that will only stop with top down leadership.

Well put.

 

[Clutch]

So, you're saying this is a terrible place to be employed for your entire career.... No ********************.

 

[JumpersAway]

There is some slack given to folks. I can account for a very recent incident in which the captain was shown a very high degree of leaniency. I think that quite a bit of it has to do with how you enter the CP office. I've never seen anyone show up and get pummled with their hat in hand. In short, I think it's all about the attitude. It's pretty darn hard to come up with something original these days- odds are someone well before you has already originated your epic F-up.

As far as the bird strike goes- I hope PD didn't call BH with all that the man is going through right now..........

 

[Kaman]

What about the latest crew who went home and left the #2 engine running?

That is some funny stuff right there!

 

[Freebrd]

As far as the bird strike goes- I hope PD didn't call BH with all that the man is going through right now..........

man no kiddin', but she's so impressed with herself it wouldn't surprise if she did, can't stand flying or hearing her voice!

 

[Plainsman]

Whos pd

 

[Plainsman]

Nevermind

 

[Sherpa]

Probably the cheerleader FA with a slight lisp.

My favorite spineless chief resides in DTW and closely resembles a jellyfish. I don't envy anyone tasked with being a disciplinarian, the job has to wear on you but for some I get the feeling they get a kick out of it. Never had any issues with the walrus.