Expressjet announcement today

[PCL_128]

Are you one of them?

No I'm not, but many of them are. Attacking all GIA pilots for PFT is ridiculous when many of them are off-the-street hires who never gave Cooper a dime. GIA has been hiring street CAs for years, none of which PFT'd. You want to attack them too?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

No I'm not, but many of them are. Attacking all GIA pilots for PFT is ridiculous when many of them are off-the-street hires who never gave Cooper a dime. GIA has been hiring street CAs for years, none of which PFT'd. You want to attack them too?

Naaa,
Just you and your mom PFT boy!
PBR

 

[Snakum]

PFT_128 will be a silver-spoon-fed, spikey-headed, IPod-wearing, backstabbing hypocrite headed for the unemployment line after he burns down Airtran. At least he'll have even MORE time to surf the net for porn and Pilot Politic'ing while collecting that check.

Whatta loser. He truly doesn't understand how laughable he is. No shame. None. And clueless.

 

[PCL_128]

That ignore list is filling up quickly!

 

[WalterSobchak]

Whatta loser. He truly doesn't understand how laughable he is. No shame. None. And clueless.

Is it just me, or is PFT quickly (and, sadly, unintentionally) becoming the new, ALPA-loving version of HelloNewman?

 

[duck_killer]

The pilots at GIA got an excellent contract for a 19-seat turboprop operator, and the pilots at PCL are holding strong on achieving a fair contract after continuing to fight for it for years. Any other questions?

No, just a comment. Trying for a good contract does nothing for the fact that YOU flew a crap undercutting contract, and yet act as though you've ever held the line. The point here is your a hypocrite. Period.

 

[PCL_128]

No, just a comment. Trying for a good contract does nothing for the fact that YOU flew a crap undercutting contract, and yet act as though you've ever held the line. The point here is your a hypocrite. Period.

Once you've secured a fair contract, get back to me. So far, no regional ever has, so you really don't have much room to talk. All regionals have crap contracts.

 

[MJ42]

Once you've secured a fair contract, get back to me. So far, no regional ever has, so you really don't have much room to talk. All regionals have crap contracts.

Then maybe I have some room to talk...see you're still spreading your hypocritical BS and holier than thou attitude. I like to read the responses, people have noticed you're full of it!

Heard through the grapevine you offered Air Tran management a sweet deal to stay employed... forego your pay and fly for free and ALSO reimburse the money AAI spent for all your past and future training events. Is that true? Sounds like something you'd do! Oh wait, you already are used to PFT.

Good luck to those 180 pilots at Air Tran that are geting screwed, I wish all of you the best.

 

[PCL_128]

Heard through the grapevine you offered Air Tran management a sweet deal to stay employed... forego your pay and fly for free and ALSO reimburse the money AAI spent for all your past and future training events. Is that true? Sounds like something you'd do! Oh wait, you already are used to PFT.

:laugh: Yeah, sure, that's what I did. Nevermind the fact that I'm not getting furloughed anyway. :laugh: You need to find a new "grapevine" apparently.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Once you've secured a fair contract, get back to me. So far, no regional ever has, so you really don't have much room to talk. All regionals have crap contracts.

I worked at ExpressJet and currently work at AAI. Expressjet hands down across the board had a better contract than AAI. What does that say about our contract? Our contract is not bad (except pay rates) but you are way off base with your comment.

 

[MJ42]

:laugh: Yeah, sure, that's what I did. Nevermind the fact that I'm not getting furloughed anyway. :laugh: You need to find a new "grapevine" apparently.

Funny how many people on this thread are laughing AT YOU! I know you aren't getting furloughed, but you're 180 #'s closer. Wouldn't surprise me if you'd attempt the offer to management, you'll sell out in order to gain at someone else's expense. You did it before, past behavior tends to be a good predictor of future behavior.

I don't wish a furlough on anyone, not even you. I've been through one and it sucks. Just pointing out you don't have a leg to stand on in your silly little arguments.

 

[PCL_128]

I worked at ExpressJet and currently work at AAI. Expressjet hands down across the board had a better contract than AAI. What does that say about our contract? Our contract is not bad but you are way off base with your comment.

I never defended our contract. It's pretty pathetic, especially the reserve section. The only contract that is even remotely decent in this industry right now is the SWA agreement, and the DAL agreement isn't bad on work rules. As good as the XJT contract is, and it's probably the best RJ contract we've ever seen, you would certainly agree that it isn't what it should be, right?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I never defended our contract. It's pretty pathetic, especially the reserve section. The only contract that is even remotely decent in this industry right now is the SWA agreement, and the DAL agreement isn't bad on work rules. As good as the XJT contract is, and it's probably the best RJ contract we've ever seen, you would certainly agree that it isn't what it should be, right?

Define what it should be. I don't think anybody would ever be totally happy with a contract. Individuals have different goals in life. Some want QOL. Some want to be able to make the most money they can. A regional is never going to have a pre 9/11 major type contract while it is in the environment it is in. All the cost cutting and undercutting and such. Guys I know that went to CAL, UAL, and USAIR agree the XJT contract work rules were equal to or better almost across the board. But the Mainline rules came down to the Regional level.

The one thing I was especially alarmed at here at AAI is how management bends, stretches, and breaks the contract with such regularity. I have never seen a group so cowed by managements threatening tactics. Even at my REGIONAL they seemed to honor the contract and for the most part I felt like a professional.

 

[PCL_128]

Define what it should be. I don't think anybody would ever be totally happy with a contract.

I would agree with you there, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect any airline Captain to make a six figure income. Although many XJT CAs do, a lot of them still don't. Not to mention FOs on food stamps. Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about when I say "should be."

The one thing I was especially alarmed at here at AAI is how management bends, stretches, and breaks the contract with such regularity. I have never seen a group so cowed by managements threatening tactics. Even at my REGIONAL they seemed to honor the contract and for the most part I felt like a professional.

In full agreement with you there.

 

[Wesb737fo]

It seems like a fist fight has broken out on the deck of the titanic.

Who gives a rats a$$ what kind of contract Xjet has. The pay is cr@p and they are going to furlough like alot of others. Does anyone there want to stay there forever.

I'm not sure I'm following the argument about reserve rules at AAI. Guys on reserve can fly little and make alot. I'm no fan of our contract either, but I would rather be here versus flying a 50 seater anywhere right now.

My two pesos