Express Jet Hiring Update...

[Future SNA]

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Little update, we've been told specifically NOT to get embroidered shirts, since they are switching their logo, trying to move away from the continental stuff I guess. EVERYONE in the training department, hr, has said this, so get plain shirts for now. We've also been told the commuter pass is not really necessary for the most part. Essentially you can jumpseat for free on ANY expressjet and continental trip in ANY seat in the cabin. I'm commuting, and don't plan on getting it, 6 flights a day to nearly all the hubs, from this lowlife town, can't imagine Ill have a problem. After the interview where they brought up the commuter pass, everyone has since told us, to give commuting a try for 6 months, if it's not working, get the commuter pass, but I've heard you won't need it.

 

[Ben Franklin]

Why would you get the commuter pass when it costs the same as just listing yourself anyways?

If you get the pass, you're locked in for a year. Then when you have vacation or are sick, you still pay for your pass even though you don't use it.

It's cheaper to list for each round trip when you fly.



Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[vmc-hound]

Toga,

I am not trying to scare. It is a good place to work. I just don't want people to think management is looking out for us. Good luck to everyone hope all goes well and make sure you read your contract before sitting reserve.

Oh by the way the emroidered shirts will be bad when we switch our brass soon. I hope they buy me new shirts with the new emblem.

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you must be a cal flow back...or someone who hates their job...

if so please get out and let the new guys(hopefully myself) in the door...this company is not going to give you everything!!!Here's a little secret Management does not want you to know...pilots and mechs have this company by the short and curlys.... hands down...the no strike clause in the continental agreement does not allow a strike for more than 24hrs or xjt will loose all planes gates everything...the end of the airline....and of course all the jobs as well

 

[TOGA]

VMC Hound,
I'm not quite sure how to take that, but it didn't sound very nice . . . care to elaborate?

Future SNA,
Nice change to your "Flown:" heading under your avatar! However, you'd be doing yourself a favor by not even getting in the habit of calling it an "RJ", "ERJ", or anything with that self-defeating "R" word in it. It's a tough, and necessary, habit to break. You and I do not work for a regional airline. We broke the $1 billion annual revenue mark last year . . . that, according to the DOT, makes ExpressJet a "Major Airline". No, I do not expect to be paid as much as a 777 pilot. However, I do not expect to be paid as much as a Beech pilot, either. Welcome!

 

[d.fitz]

TOGA:

So what should we call it? a 'J' woudn't really differentiate it from anything....

 

[91100 100 set]

before this thread goes astray...

...I'll try to rein it back in. For all you folks talking about March classes, what kind of timeline were you all looking at with the phone screening, interviews, etc? I got the phone screening from the HR company in early January (the 5th?) and was told that I'd be contacted in 60-90 days. So here we are, approaching the 60 days, and I'm starting to get a little squirmy in my seat. So whats the word?

 

[Future SNA]

If it makes you feel any better....

I've seen the interviewing over the past few week dwindle down to what seems like a trickly. Better put, the "initial" interviewees have dwindled down to none, seems they are concentrating all their efforts on getting orientation done for the 100 some people starting class in March! Like I said before, no call to interview back several weeks ago, and more than likely you'll get some sort of call around March 1st, since this is when they're "supposed" to, read what I've heard, start calling to interview for the next classes. Sit back and wait, it's all you can do.

Toga, your advice is noted It's soon to say 145LR in the "fixed position" format.

 

[Sam Fisher]

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you must be a cal flow back...or someone who hates their job...

if so please get out and let the new guys(hopefully myself) in the door...this company is not going to give you everything!!!Here's a little secret Management does not want you to know...pilots and mechs have this company by the short and curlys.... hands down...the no strike clause in the continental agreement does not allow a strike for more than 24hrs or xjt will loose all planes gates everything...the end of the airline....and of course all the jobs as well

I didn't read TOGA's post to sound bitter at all. It was quite realistic. Your attitude isn't one that I would look forward to spending a few days with on a 4-day trip.

You are referring to the Capacity Purchase Agreement between CAL and XJT, I believe you are slightly misled on a) the actual clause that allows CAL to take back airplanes and b) on the significance of this clause.

I don't think you have any true idea of what this pilot group is trying to accomplish in this contract negotiation. There is a reason that us human beings have 2 years and only 1 mouth. Keep your ears open dude....

Sam

 

[BigShotXJTdrvr]

Toga,

I am not trying to scare. It is a good place to work. I just don't want people to think management is looking out for us. Good luck to everyone hope all goes well and make sure you read your contract before sitting reserve.

Oh by the way the emroidered shirts will be bad when we switch our brass soon. I hope they buy me new shirts with the new emblem.

Management not looking out for us? Remember that airplane that ran off the end of 6L at high speed and destoyed the Loc antenna in CLE last year? The feds wanted the heads of those pilots. Jim Nides stuck up for them and SAVED their CAREERS. He stuck up for them as they sat through a CVR recording that had more transcripted text in 30 minutes of flying than any other CVR in the history of CVRs! And they were saying nasty, filthy, cockpit talk about Nides, about the company about a lot of things. Not a lot of CPs would have done that. I'm no koolaid drinker, but Nides was a line pilot with Comair for a long time. He knows what we do out there, and what we have to do sometimes to get it done. He is management, but he is about as good as you will find anywhere, and for the most part he hires base CPs that are good guys too. The only reason he was able to help those two pilots is because they didn't kill anybody that day. That was pure luck, and those two idiots are still working here because JN gave them a second chance.

 

[ATRCA]

VMC,

Your understanding of our Capacity Purchase Agreement is seriously flawed. Under said agreement it takes greater than a 90 day work stopage for CAL to repatriate our aircraft and facilities.

Needless to say a 90 day strike at CAL would put them comfortably in court with UAL and USA. The repo clause is not the poison pill that some (CAL mgt) would like it to be. We have a great deal of leverage as a result of our size and scope. With our 238 aircraft, we operate almost 1/3rd of CAL's domestice market.

The problem we face is getting relaesed for self help by the current NMB leadership. Time will tell.

If you care to know the details you can find the CPA located in an XJT stock prospective or XJT annual report. See yah.

 

[TOGA]

BigShotXJTDriver -
Great post, except the "idiots" part. Those two didn't make any mistakes than any two of us can honestly say we'd never make. Their worst mistake was in allowing all their individual mistakes to pile up into the $hitstorm that they ended up in. Amazing that no one was killed, much less even injured! You're right, though . . . it's profoundly telling that our Flt Ops Mgmt went to bat for them. It makes it even harder for me to believe how many 'mgmt's out to get us all/ExJet sucks' mentalities are out there . . . what the he!! do they want?! Well, okay . . . some money would be nice, but other than that . . .

 

[vmc-hound]

I didn't read TOGA's post to sound bitter at all. It was quite realistic. Your attitude isn't one that I would look forward to spending a few days with on a 4-day trip.

You are referring to the Capacity Purchase Agreement between CAL and XJT, I believe you are slightly misled on a) the actual clause that allows CAL to take back airplanes and b) on the significance of this clause.

I don't think you have any true idea of what this pilot group is trying to accomplish in this contract negotiation. There is a reason that us human beings have 2 years and only 1 mouth. Keep your ears open dude....

Sam

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first of all I know the capacity agreement...although I do not have a copy infront of me I know it states if pilots strike for more than 24hours Cal can take the airplanes(which they are leasing to us as well as gates etc even fuel) and that would be the end...

I also know what the pilots are trying to do...I was simply stating(obvisously mistaken)that the pilots have the upper hand in the negotiations. That was my point. Compared to Other regionals the pilots can/are getting alot of the reasonable request they they have presented. I also heard a rumor that some pilots believed the recent profit sharing should go to the pilots and not the folks who received it....is that true?

As far as spending 4or 5 day trip with me regarding my attitude...I believe you are out of line based on one statement regarding this topic...

I have every right to voice my opion on this forum and this topic because I am in the middle of it and this company....period!!!!

 

[ERJ2FLY]

600 hours and you are "in the middle" of what? where? Xjet?

Do we have any 600 hour pilots?

 

[vmc-hound]

Just to clear the "he's an a hole" air....

my quote was from "Who dew" not Toga....I did not notice toga was quoted by who dew...just a misunderstanding

it was not an attack on toga but a response from who dey previous reply's...

nothing against toga's responses...

 

[vmc-hound]

600 hours and you are "in the middle" of what? where? Xjet?

Do we have any 600 hour pilots?

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I work for xjt...thanks