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The ASRS report won't help as he can't submit it within ten days of the occurence...this too place over a year, and he won't be offered any protections under the program. If he submits the report, then admits to the FAA, the program offers no protection, and if the FAA learns of the event from a source other than ASRS and he wilfully provides data in the unprotected report...he's doing himself no favors.

Consulting an attorney is the thing to do, bar nothing.

I don't know what this favorite buzz-word "self-disclose" is supposed to insinuate, but it's crap. Seems everybody is saying it all of a sudden...silence is golden. Use it.

Remember the old saw about the man waiting to die on the guillotine? He watches a man head of him lay his head down, but the blade stops just inches away. The man is spared becase of this miraculous event. The man just ahead experiences the same, and is let go. So this brilliant specimine lays his neck on the block, and when asked if he has any last words, says in the interest of full disclosure, "Yes. If you remove that little screw up there the blade will fall down all the way."

What do you think is going to happen when you run to the FAA, who is there to ENFORCE the regulation, to tell them you've been flying for a year without a valid medical? They'll get all misty, slap you on the back, and buy you a beer? No, you'll add your name to the list of other aviators who suffered enforcement action becasue they were dumb enough to provide the Administrator with the evidence necessary to proceed, and to win against your appeal.

As one may instruct without a medical, unless you are bright enough to state for the record that you've been acting as PIC without a medical, nothing in the form itself, including a statement of hours flown, will incriminate you. After all, you can log PIC without a medical certificate, too...you don't need to state what you've been doing. Fill in the form, go get a new medical, and move on...and don't mention it again. See your favorite attorney for details.
 
The ASRS report won't help as he can't submit it within ten days of the occurence...this too place over a year, and he won't be offered any protections under the program. If he submits the report, then admits to the FAA, the program offers no protection, and if the FAA learns of the event from a source other than ASRS and he wilfully provides data in the unprotected report...he's doing himself no favors.

Consulting an attorney is the thing to do, bar nothing.

I don't know what this favorite buzz-word "self-disclose" is supposed to insinuate, but it's crap. Seems everybody is saying it all of a sudden...silence is golden. Use it.

Remember the old saw about the man waiting to die on the guillotine? He watches a man head of him lay his head down, but the blade stops just inches away. The man is spared becase of this miraculous event. The man just ahead experiences the same, and is let go. So this brilliant specimine lays his neck on the block, and when asked if he has any last words, says in the interest of full disclosure, "Yes. If you remove that little screw up there the blade will fall down all the way."

What do you think is going to happen when you run to the FAA, who is there to ENFORCE the regulation, to tell them you've been flying for a year without a valid medical? They'll get all misty, slap you on the back, and buy you a beer? No, you'll add your name to the list of other aviators who suffered enforcement action becasue they were dumb enough to provide the Administrator with the evidence necessary to proceed, and to win against your appeal.

As one may instruct without a medical, unless you are bright enough to state for the record that you've been acting as PIC without a medical, nothing in the form itself, including a statement of hours flown, will incriminate you. After all, you can log PIC without a medical certificate, too...you don't need to state what you've been doing. Fill in the form, go get a new medical, and move on...and don't mention it again. See your favorite attorney for details.

Well said. The person contacted aviation lawyers and they basically said what you just mentioned.

Fedora, you mentioned that the FBO is stupid for not checking... its the same FBO who doesn't look at ANY of your FAA information when hiring you, you could go and say you're a pilot and they would hire you, scary stuff
 
The time in the last six months could have very well been in something that did not require a medical cert. Thus, no red flags.

Have your friend consult a aviation attorney ASAP.
 
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