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If the students could all have acted as PIC of their instructional aircraft--say, if the instructor was doing CFI training, acro training, tailwheel, high performance, complex, etc., but no private training or initial multi-engine training or anything like that--then he was perfectly legal to teach with no medical at all. Yes, for money.
Don't forget one more - no instrument training where the CFI needs to be a safety pilot. Just a minor nit, but people are forever forgetting that a CFI needs to have a medical when acting as PIC or as a required crewmember

BTW, the recommendation to consult an aviation attorney is a good one.
 
An aviation attorney is a good place to go.

A NASA form is another good thing to do.

Maybe sitting down and figuring out how many hours were dual given to non-PIC students and solo flights might be a good exercise. And were any of those lessons in ultralights or LSAs?

But a CFI without a medical can still instruct, get paid, and log flight time without raising any red flags.

Don't do it again.
 
A NASA form is another good thing to do.

I don't see how a NASA form would be applicable to the situation, lawyer is probably the best advice. Even if it did you need to file it within 10 days of the incident and be able to prove it.

"The operations covered by the program include departure, en route, approach, and landing operations and procedures, air traffic control procedures and equipment, crew and air traffic control communications, aircraft cabin operations, aircraft movement on the airport, near midair collisions, aircraft maintenance and recordkeeping, and airport conditions or services".
 
So NASA didn't say 'include but are not limited to. . ." It's free and doesn't get revealed to anyone except if a criminal activity (flying without a medical is not) or accident is reported.
 
What a dumb s**t!
Better off leaving this one alone. It opens a whole can of worms if the Feds get a whiff of it. If he was not legal to fly during any of his flight instructions, many of his students may be affected.
If he recommended a student pilot for a rating ride while he was illegal, for example, the student's certificate might be invalid as well, and so on.
Bury this one in a deep hole and cross your fingers that anyone who knows keeps their mouth shut.
The FAA medical branch cares less what you do after you get your medical certificate. Fly or don't fly, doesn't matter to them.
Also shame on any FBO that was using this guy and not knowing the status of his certificates.

The NASA report is a good idea for sure.
 
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The ASRS report won't help as he can't submit it within ten days of the occurence...this too place over a year, and he won't be offered any protections under the program. If he submits the report, then admits to the FAA, the program offers no protection, and if the FAA learns of the event from a source other than ASRS and he wilfully provides data in the unprotected report...he's doing himself no favors.

Consulting an attorney is the thing to do, bar nothing.

I don't know what this favorite buzz-word "self-disclose" is supposed to insinuate, but it's crap. Seems everybody is saying it all of a sudden...silence is golden. Use it.

Remember the old saw about the man waiting to die on the guillotine? He watches a man head of him lay his head down, but the blade stops just inches away. The man is spared becase of this miraculous event. The man just ahead experiences the same, and is let go. So this brilliant specimine lays his neck on the block, and when asked if he has any last words, says in the interest of full disclosure, "Yes. If you remove that little screw up there the blade will fall down all the way."

What do you think is going to happen when you run to the FAA, who is there to ENFORCE the regulation, to tell them you've been flying for a year without a valid medical? They'll get all misty, slap you on the back, and buy you a beer? No, you'll add your name to the list of other aviators who suffered enforcement action becasue they were dumb enough to provide the Administrator with the evidence necessary to proceed, and to win against your appeal.

As one may instruct without a medical, unless you are bright enough to state for the record that you've been acting as PIC without a medical, nothing in the form itself, including a statement of hours flown, will incriminate you. After all, you can log PIC without a medical certificate, too...you don't need to state what you've been doing. Fill in the form, go get a new medical, and move on...and don't mention it again. See your favorite attorney for details.
 
The ASRS report won't help as he can't submit it within ten days of the occurence...this too place over a year, and he won't be offered any protections under the program. If he submits the report, then admits to the FAA, the program offers no protection, and if the FAA learns of the event from a source other than ASRS and he wilfully provides data in the unprotected report...he's doing himself no favors.

Consulting an attorney is the thing to do, bar nothing.

I don't know what this favorite buzz-word "self-disclose" is supposed to insinuate, but it's crap. Seems everybody is saying it all of a sudden...silence is golden. Use it.

Remember the old saw about the man waiting to die on the guillotine? He watches a man head of him lay his head down, but the blade stops just inches away. The man is spared becase of this miraculous event. The man just ahead experiences the same, and is let go. So this brilliant specimine lays his neck on the block, and when asked if he has any last words, says in the interest of full disclosure, "Yes. If you remove that little screw up there the blade will fall down all the way."

What do you think is going to happen when you run to the FAA, who is there to ENFORCE the regulation, to tell them you've been flying for a year without a valid medical? They'll get all misty, slap you on the back, and buy you a beer? No, you'll add your name to the list of other aviators who suffered enforcement action becasue they were dumb enough to provide the Administrator with the evidence necessary to proceed, and to win against your appeal.

As one may instruct without a medical, unless you are bright enough to state for the record that you've been acting as PIC without a medical, nothing in the form itself, including a statement of hours flown, will incriminate you. After all, you can log PIC without a medical certificate, too...you don't need to state what you've been doing. Fill in the form, go get a new medical, and move on...and don't mention it again. See your favorite attorney for details.

Well said. The person contacted aviation lawyers and they basically said what you just mentioned.

Fedora, you mentioned that the FBO is stupid for not checking... its the same FBO who doesn't look at ANY of your FAA information when hiring you, you could go and say you're a pilot and they would hire you, scary stuff
 
The time in the last six months could have very well been in something that did not require a medical cert. Thus, no red flags.

Have your friend consult a aviation attorney ASAP.
 
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