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ERJ / Legacy Captain (FAA ATP) Wanted - Short Term Contract

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LegacyDriver

LegacyDriver

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I realize this is a strange one, but...

An acquaintance of mine needs a Captain-Qualified ERJ or Legacy pilot for a short term contract. The airplane (a brand new Legacy with all the bells and whistles) is being flown to a buyer in Russia. It is an Aruba-Registered airplane (they will validate your FAA ATP License).

Most of the flying will be in Europe.

Contract will pay for an apartment, $5000/month, approx. $50/day per diem (I may be low-balling that one), VISA support, and transportation to and from the USA at the beginning and end of the contract.

Part of the job is helping to train the two permanent pilots now going through type rating class in Europe.

I am only able to do about 14-21 days of the contract so you would probably be there for 4-6 weeks. I think this is one heck of a cool opportunity for someone wanting to go international for a short while to round out their resume' a bit.

I'm doing it as a favor to someone in need, but I admit the selfish motive: to broaden my knowledge as well.

PM me for more details if you are interested. Please no smart alec comments. I am merely the messenger.
 
Well....it is a regional airliner...

Plus they want 50$ perdiem per day in Europe. Operated in Russia lately? 50$ does not go too far. How bout London? that 50$ covers breakfast...hate to see the dumps this place will put you also...

Definitly belongs on the regional board. Fifty bucks perdiem and 5K/month may be great money/opportunity there...
 
It's a "Real Corporate Jet" (tm).

I don't know the details well. As I said in my note, $50/day is a low-ball figure I am sure. Most of the flying is to be in Europe, not Russia any way (and I don't eat breakfast). You must eat caviar or something all the time.

I have had a few responses from people interested so it obviously did what it was intended to do.

Just to go over there to see the place is probably worth it!
 
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I'm not interested or qualified for the position, but I am curious if the applicant must be able to speak russian or another foreign language to be contracted?
 
Don't do it!

$5000/mo is a crime!! I make $600 + $40.80 per diem per day on a Legacy right now and that's low, too! Contract rate on this a/c should be $800-1000/day. A full month should pay at least $20k.
 
LegacyDriver said:
It's a "Real Corporate Jet" (tm).

I don't know the details well. As I said in my note, $50/day is a low-ball figure I am sure. Most of the flying is to be in Europe, not Russia any way (and I don't eat breakfast). You must eat caviar or something all the time.

I have had a few responses from people interested so it obviously did what it was intended to do.

Just to go over there to see the place is probably worth it!
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Seriously, if you're talking USD, in Europe per diem should be at least $100/day, and preferably in the $130-$150/day range. Given the strength of the Euro against the dollar combined with normally high prices for food, beer, and things like having your laundry done, $50 in Europe will take you about as far as $20-$25 will here.
 
I am thinking the per diem was quoted in Euros.

I appreciate the info everyone (Catyaak). I personally don't care but I understand others might. I'm doing it as a favor so I would do it for free to help a friend. Maybe he'll pay you more. I'm not sure...I just rattled off what I recalled off the top of my head.

Russian fluency not required.
 
TOGA said:
$5000/mo is a crime!! I make $600 + $40.80 per diem per day on a Legacy right now and that's low, too! Contract rate on this a/c should be $800-1000/day. A full month should pay at least $20k.
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Where are you doing contract work, Kuwait? Just curious.
 
Give the guy a break. For a quick commuter job, 5K a month is good. Fly a coummuter airplane, make commuter money. You wouldn't expect sombody flying a Metro or J31 for a month to make more than $5000 would you? I bet commuter pilots would drool over $50 a day Europe or not. The Legacy is a commuter airplane so you should make coummuter money. I do agree though, the post should be posted on the Regional board.
 
5K for a months worth of contract work is $HIT - its not "good"...

This is the type of garbage that pops up when you try and dress up a pig (Legacy) to look like a bizjet. I guess 5K looks like a fortune for a months work when you are used to working for $1500/month. PATHETIC.

GV/Global guys are getting 1200-1500/day for Intl work. A legacy guy should get at least say...half that!!

now, go pimp this dog over at the regional forum....


Last week in London a meduim coffee and muffin at Starbucks was about 10lb.....thats about $19....jeeesh, there goes half my days per diem...

yeah, you'll be eating caviar....
 
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Oh come on Gulfstream 200. I'm a fan of your posts and was just trying to get a rise.....didn't expect it from you.
 
Don't yell at me. I am just the messenger... Sheesh.

$5K tax-free doesn't seem bad to me for what I consider a paid vacation to Europe... It's a heck of a lot more than I make on the EMB-140.

Negotiate with the man. I'm telling you what he offered me and I said, "Sure no problem." I'm sure if you give him the going rate he'll bump it up.
 
"paid vacation in Europe"...

lovely. Now flying for a living should be considered "paid vacation"

Your friend is looking for an International Qualified Training Captain on your (so called) business jet for a whopping.....$166 a day salary.

yup, that gets a RISE outta me every single time..


Passing on job opportunitys to the general public is a great idea and this frustration is not aimed at you...just sick of people lowering the bar - once again...

call it an opportunity? sure....call it a "good opportunity"....F THAT.
 
Lowering the bar? I already have a job. I'm doing it as a favor. Nobody said you have to do it for $5K. He said, "Can you do it for $5,000 a month?" I said, "Sure."

Well, turns out my recurrent gets in the way of it so I can only help for two weeks. I am quite certain he will pay you more if you ask for it. I'm just telling people what I know in case there is an interest.

I voted no to my TA...fully prepared to shut the whole thing down to get what we have earned through hard work and sacrifice. I certainly didn't lower any bar.
 
Ivory Tower Hypoxia

G200

Salary issues notwithstanding, by your logic, then this board should be populated by CRJ drivers from the regionals discussing CRJ issues, after all the CRJ evolved from the Challenger, did it not?

Ivory Tower's come to mind..................


Leviathan
 
1. It is not tax free unless it meets the "year test" by the IRS.

2. It was mentioned in the first post that part of the job is training the "real" crew.....hmmmmmm, that in itself bring enough challenges that makes $5000 a month way too low.

3. Fact - some poor sap will take the job, learn a lot (like never to lower the bar on himself again, how to teach English as a second language while tooling along in primitive airspace at 400kts) and go back to a regional making $1500 a month or maybe get kidnapped and featured on a web video. You get what you pay for.

Having made some bad mistakes early on (and probably continuing to make mistakes now) I have learned to avoid the really obvious ones, this would be an obvious one.

Best of luck or СУДЬБА!
 
I don't think it's the airplane that's drawing the attention so much as the price. If you came here talking about a 20K/month contract gig in the Legacy, you most likely wouldn't have received the response that you did.

I'm just some dumb pilot of a 6 seat piston twin. The real corporate pilots on this board have several times the experience, flying equipment I could only dream about. But if my guys wanted me to spend a month flying them around in the 340, it'd cost them about 10K (assuming I'm on standby to fly the entire month) for my services plus expenses. So if I'm sitting here thinking 5K is pretty d@mned low, you can only imagine how the other pilots feel about it.

Maybe I don't have a dog in this fight, but that's the way I see it.
 
Legacy driver is not far off the mark, in quoting rates etc. However there are several legacy drivers in Europe, and a quick post to Pprune.com will confirmt he situation.
I was based in Moscow for 5 years with G4 and CL601. Great fun, great people, and a really great experience. It would be worth it for almost any money.
Remember a VISA is needed, these take time, and a sponsorship letter. Moscow is getting cold and when the snow starts a legacy need to be hangered. Might be a problem.
As to generalisations of coffee shops. I agree in UK we are about double the equivalent US prices, and in Moscow the coffee shops are just as good. The Coffee Bean next to the Marriott is as good if not better than "S".
An instructor pilot should get on a daily basis 800-1000US, but for a one month or similar expect no more than 10,000US per month.
A 100US perdiem should be discussed, with the company paying hotel, breakfast and laundry.
Take heavy cold weather kit with you.
I am a now only a Gulfstream G4/G550 driver, and would kill to get back to Moscow, the people are the best, and the girls to die for....end of lecture. Any more info, E Mail me at [email protected]
 
IRAILOT, what a load of tosh.....I was foot loose in Moscow for 5 years...very few problems. Much less than most "other" countries/cities.

Bumz.
 
I like Moscow, too. When there we stay at the Metropol because it's convenient to Red Square and the Bolshoi, but we base our operations out of Night Flight on Tverskaia Street. Ever been there?

GV
 
As I said to LegacyDriver in my PM to him - Moscow, not a problem. Many other places in Russia are not ok now - you know, the 2 airliners bombed out of the sky, the attack on the school in Beslan, the Jihad moving north and some political unrest regarding Putin, civil rights and the oil industry. Not knowing exactly where in Russia (big country, having spent time in other parts, far flung from the more "western" Moscow) I was advising some caution. Things have changed, my friend.

Cheers
 
GVFlyer said:
I like Moscow, too. When there we stay at the Metropol because it's convenient to Red Square and the Bolshoi, but we base our operations out of Night Flight on Tverskaia Street. Ever been there?

GV
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there are some babes with serious money hanging out at night flight!

ever try the Kempinski across the river? not bad digs....heck its pure entertainment just to check out the working gals in the lobby bar!!

I like Moscow too, neat city. Winter gets real old real quick though...

I still get a kick out of all the wedding clebrations going on at red square area each saturday....middle of winter, -20 degrees and newlyweds and thier parties walking around in wedding clothes drinking cans of beer...only the ruskies..
 
I've not had the opportunity to visit Night Flight. But our other pilots and a notable visit by our mechanic... :eek:

Can't wait.TC
 
Moscow Operations Centre

On the Upper level, get by far the best view, and afternoon tea is well worth waiting for.
Normally stay over the road, in Marriott. Metropole might be near the the culture, but mostly small rooms, beautiful, but small.

Now Hungry Duck had by far the best Operations Room, 9-10pm, being briefing time......
 

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