ERAU...Master Degree

Cypilot77

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hello people,
im new here,and after reading all the forum subjects,i feel you guys know everything....:) ..SO, i have a two questions that i need to get some information.First one, i was wondering if you know any flight schools that have self examining authority for initial CFI license(except airman flight school). The other one, im looking forward to start my online master degree(aeronautical science) at ERAU .i want to know how good their online program is and how much it costs.I called the school and they told me between $285 and $995 per credit, which dont make any sense to me..lol
i appreciate any info.thanks
 

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Masters courses are typically around $3-400 per credit. I'd suggest doing an extended campus since online degrees don't carry as much weight.
 

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I've heard various people suggest that a degree done by distance learning doesn't carry the same weight, but I disagree. A degree by distance learning utilizes the same texts, the same material, has the same requirements, but is merely conducted outside the classroom. The degree obtained by distance learning carries the same accreditation and is indistinguishable from a degree obtained by formal attendance.

A degree is a degree. Today, degrees by distance learning are becoming far more commonplace, and have gained wide acceptance. I don't believe for a minute that an employer would discriminate based on weather a degree was earned in residence, or by distance learning.

I might submit, however, that certain subjects are easier tackled with an instructor who can be counseled with in person, vs. by the internet. This might make the study go easier, but doesn't change the efficacy or veracity of the degree.
 

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I applied to and was accepted to a Masters program at Riddle. The distance program was a LOT cheaper than the on-campus ones. I actually decided against attending there because I was offered my current job. I'm actually pretty glad that I didn't go to Riddle because things are working out for me so well here, although I was considering doing the online degree until I was accepted to a different program here.

Best of luck!

-Goose
 
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Most 141 schools would have examining authority for initial CFI applicants.
 

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Cochise College in AZ has examining authority for CFI's. At least they did about 10 years ago, I guess they still do.
 

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check6 said:
Most 141 schools would have examining authority for initial CFI applicants.
Ah, no, actually the FAA likes to do those rides. You'll only find examining authority for CFI initial at a couple (if any) places where the volume exeeds what the FSDO deems it is capable of handling. I had to wait a month for my checkride from my FSDO several years ago.
 

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Cypilot77 said:
...i was wondering if you know any flight schools that have self examining authority for initial CFI license(except airman flight school). The other one, im looking forward to start my online master degree(aeronautical science) at ERAU...
Looking for the easy way out on both fronts? That's how I'd read that resume.
 

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I've heard that if you are a CFI at Embry-Riddle, they let you do your masters classes for free. The only problem is that you can only do it part time while being a full time instructor and the masters program may take a while.
 

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i completed the master of aeronautical science degree from erau distance learning program. i think it was a good quality program. paid for by my employer (best kind). it has probably helped my career somewhat, but it is hard to quantify. i would recommend the program. A very nice feature of the program is that it is self paced and self motivated. you won't complete it unless you have discipline. good thing to do on the road for sure.:)
 

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kneeshoe said:
I've heard that if you are a CFI at Embry-Riddle, they let you do your masters classes for free. The only problem is that you can only do it part time while being a full time instructor and the masters program may take a while.
That's basically the deal that I have worked out here, although technically I am both instructing full-time and a full-time graduate student.

-Goose
 

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bvt1151 said:
Masters courses are typically around $3-400 per credit. I'd suggest doing an extended campus since online degrees don't carry as much weight.
Completely wrong. A degree from an accredited institution is a degree. Amost all major colleges and universities these days offer distance learning opportunities. I'll tell you something else... As a manager in a large corporation, I'll certainly give favorable consideration to someone who comes in with a degree that they earned while working full time, whether it be in the classroom or online. I've personally taken classes in both formats, and I'll tell you the online curriculum is no joke. In fact, I found it to be more challenging.

Bottom line, online is just as acceptable.
 

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Is it worth it? I am a pilot and plan on being one as far as my career will allow me to. Would a Masters helpout? I looked into some online Aviation MBA programs which would be good for my knowledge but is it really gonna make a difference anyway in my career? I almost want to say no but who knows. Also, I took my CFI ride with our 141 DE b/c the FSDO was too backed up. I got lucky.
 

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RichardRambone said:
Is it worth it? I am a pilot and plan on being one as far as my career will allow me to. Would a Masters helpout?
I don't know if a masters on its own is necessarily going to rapidly advance your professional pilot career, but I will mention a few things..
- education never hurt anyone;
- it will be something that can further differentiate you from others;
- it might be something a corporate flight department would look more favorably on;
- look at different masters options.. maybe an MBA?
 

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kneeshoe said:
I've heard that if you are a CFI at Embry-Riddle, they let you do your masters classes for free. The only problem is that you can only do it part time while being a full time instructor and the masters program may take a while.
Instructors are staff, and staff get to take free classes to some extent.
 

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Thank you very much guys.All the suggestions were very helpfull to me.By the way,i live and work in NY,thats why im trying to find any easy ways to get a degree. As for the CFI,the Farmingdale FSDO,except that you have to wait up to 6 months to take your checkride,the passing rate is only 17%. I dont think i want to do it here.. Any other suggestions welcome.
 

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Yea I agree with U about that ol Farmingdale FSDO....those guys definetely got a chip on their shoulders when it comes to doing their CFI examination.....I recommend a DPE out in Jersey by the name of Bob Brodwater, He's tough but very fair...Also I've heard some other folks getting better luck up at the Albany FSDO
 

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semperfido said:
i completed the master of aeronautical science degree from erau distance learning program. i think it was a good quality program. paid for by my employer (best kind). it has probably helped my career somewhat, but it is hard to quantify. i would recommend the program. A very nice feature of the program is that it is self paced and self motivated. you won't complete it unless you have discipline. good thing to do on the road for sure.:)
Please don't take this wrong because I am not trying to flame or start an argument, but I am curious what a "master of aeronautical science degree" gets you. Is that like an MBA with aviation focus or a Masters in Management with an aviation focus. How does industry look at it?

I am asking because I am working on my MBA at Western Michigan. What if I wanted to become an airport manager, which I assume is where the Riddle degree will get you. Would the Riddle degree help me or does my couple thousand hours of Part 121 experience combined with my MBA put me in the same position? I leaned toward the MBA since it isn't aviation specific, similar to my Electrical Engineering degree.

I am just curious what the Riddle degree gets a person besides an X in the box for Masters degree. I went to Parks so I understand the whole airway science degree is a generic business degree a person who also flies will receive.

I emphasize that I am not trying to knock anyone, I am just trying to validate my path. Four years at one course a semester is a long time.

Thanks.
 

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Avro Drvr,

No problemo. As I said it is difficult to quantify what a Masters Degree gets you, per se. I can tell you that it may help differentiate yourself from the rest of the pack in this competition based world we live in. I went after it because at that time I wanted the challenge and the company would foot the Bill. All I had to do was make an effort and do the work. May not be everyones cup of tea, but it was a challenge for me to complete it that made me want to do it.

A MBA may be even more of a challenge and also more useful. That depends on your personal situation and goals. It is all an individual thing. I am a pilot and my undergraduate is in Aero Science so it fit well for me. The degree program included the usual array of management studies and was very well designed and in my view well thought out, well rounded course of study.

It may not get you anything. I did not do it to get anything ,other than the challenge it provided in it's pursuit. I have always enjoyed the hunt more than anything else, but that's me. You need to work that out on your own. There is no pot of gold at the end.

fido :)
 

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semperfido said:
Avro Drvr,

No problemo. As I said it is difficult to quantify what a Masters Degree gets you, per se. I can tell you that it may help differentiate yourself from the rest of the pack in this competition based world we live in. I went after it because at that time I wanted the challenge and the company would foot the Bill. All I had to do was make an effort and do the work. May not be everyones cup of tea, but it was a challenge for me to complete it that made me want to do it.

A MBA may be even more of a challenge and also more useful. That depends on your personal situation and goals. It is all an individual thing. I am a pilot and my undergraduate is in Aero Science so it fit well for me. The degree program included the usual array of management studies and was very well designed and in my view well thought out, well rounded course of study.

It may not get you anything. I did not do it to get anything ,other than the challenge it provided in it's pursuit. I have always enjoyed the hunt more than anything else, but that's me. You need to work that out on your own. There is no pot of gold at the end.

fido :)
Semperfido,

Thanks for the info. These business classes bore me to tears. I hope I make it through. My company pays for it also so I figured I needed to do something. Free money is hard to turn down. I didn't go for the Master in Electrical Engineering because it looked entirely too painful and would have required a whole lot more work. An MBA seems doable if I can handle listing to the professors drone on and on for hours. Don't get me wrong. I am getting good info but that topics are a bit dry. As with you, I think any Masters degree looks good. It shows dedication and work ethic.

Good luck to you.
 
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