Endeavor to hire 300-400

[IFLYASA]

I heard they managed to get about 20 people from UND that will start class soon. I don't think they will have problems filling seats.

They must have compelled them and spiked the Kool-Aid. Wow.

 

[SoberIrishman]

...and hopefully 15 of those will see their "mistake" before the end of training.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

...and hopefully 15 of those will see their "mistake" before the end of training.

Better yet before the first day of class...:beer:

 

[big shacks]

Those twenty timed the industry perfect and will be at a legacy in two years.

 

[JumpersAway]

Why not buy all DCI carriers, one big staple, then you are able to hire all the 1500 hour guys as Delta pilots. Would you go to Eagle or Delta if you just got your 1500? That eliminates any pilot shortage for all Delta staffing, period.

This will NEVER happen. An interview is the best anyone can hope for. I used to think the above was a possibility, but then I saw this as complete fiction. Even if by some odd chance that it does, it will be YEARS down the road. Delta has no fervor for ASA/ExpressJet or it's pilots.

 

[IFLYASA]

This will NEVER happen. An interview is the best anyone can hope for. I used to think the above was a possibility, but then I saw this as complete fiction. Even if by some odd chance that it does, it will be YEARS down the road. Delta has no fervor for ASA/ExpressJet or it's pilots.

Oh I agree completely. It just make sense in the big scheme IF you need pilots that bad.

 

[EL10]

Better yet before the first day of class...:beer:

The best thing that can happen is have them show up get all the way done with training and leave after IOE, but before the first day of reserve. This is what will make them understand that they need to fix the airline.

 

[SoberIrishman]

And take the whole pilot group with them!
Then we can be done with this.

 

[xjhawk]

people, smarten up. If you think there is a shortage-do the math. A year or so ago I did the numbers and forecasted hiring was 10,000 pilots in (X) amount of time, but hey guess what? There are about 20,000 regional pilots and a lot more 135 operators. There is not a shortage

 

[atpcliff]

Just talked to a regional pilot. A friend of his is a MlEC officer at a very large US carrier. The MEC guy was talking to his airline's CEO. He asked what was the #1 problem that the CEO had to deal with at their airline. The CEO said the upcoming pilot shortage. The CEO did not see how they could realistically avoid parking mainline aircraft due to a shortage of pilots to fly those aircraft.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Just talked to a regional pilot. A friend of his is a MlEC officer at a very large US carrier. The MEC guy was talking to his airline's CEO. He asked what was the #1 problem that the CEO had to deal with at their airline. The CEO said the upcoming pilot shortage. The CEO did not see how they could realistically avoid parking mainline aircraft due to a shortage of pilots to fly those aircraft.

Then that CEO must be planning to not shrink their regionals at all and let mainline shrink instead as pilots leave. Joke will be on him when his regionals' pilots all quit for better jobs at competitors while his mainline guys retire.

 

[big shacks]

Where is Paul Foley? Is he still living in HPN?

 

[gojo]

Where is Paul Foley? Is he still living in HPN?

What does he do?

 

[big shacks]

He collects cash and smokes hash....

 

[higney85]

He collects cash and smokes hash....

But does he tan excessively? Maybe he can be on the RAA board if he can fit in...

 

[atpcliff]

Then that CEO must be planning to not shrink their regionals at all and let mainline shrink instead as pilots leave

His airline's plan is to shrink the RJ fleet a lot and fly more mainline planes...he is worried that they won't be able to crew the mainline planes they are acquiring.

More evidence of the shortage: Jet Airways, and Indian carrier, just announced hiring for a JFK base. It is the first Indian airline to open US pilot bases.

And, in case you missed it, there are now two Chinese carriers with US, N. American, European and Australian pilot bases. Until about last year, no mainland Chinese airline had pilot bases outside of China.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

His airline's plan is to shrink the RJ fleet a lot and fly more mainline planes...he is worried that they won't be able to crew the mainline planes they are acquiring.

More evidence of the shortage: Jet Airways, and Indian carrier, just announced hiring for a JFK base. It is the first Indian airline to open US pilot bases.

And, in case you missed it, there are now two Chinese carriers with US, N. American, European and Australian pilot bases. Until about last year, no mainland Chinese airline had pilot bases outside of China.

Then he not only doesn't plan to hire many of the regional's pilots that have been flying his passengers, he plans to only hire those with Space shuttle or SR-71 time... Or he's a CEO for a place like JetBlue that will see his pilots also leave for Legacy jobs, or Frontier that has more than just pilots to worry about.

 

[General Lee]

Then he not only doesn't plan to hire many of the regional's pilots that have been flying his passengers, he plans to only hire those with Space shuttle or SR-71 time... Or he's a CEO for a place like JetBlue that will see his pilots also leave for Legacy jobs, or Frontier that has more than just pilots to worry about.

That will leave plenty of Jetblue and Frontier slots for Regional pilots. Those will be better than Regional jobs coming up here.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[e=mc2]

The only "Pilot Shortage" will be for pilots with actual pilot skill sets.
A bunch of no talent recent graduates is not what the Big Boys will hire any time soon.
Flush all the Regional Lifers over 45 out of the mix, and you have the Big Boys hiring pretty much whomever they please from the military, corporate, and other second tier carriers. The guys who are holding the short end of the stick are the third rate regionals (Masalba, Colgan, Pinnacle, etc) who will continue to be a revolving door to something better.

 

[RJLoser]

The only "Pilot Shortage" will be for pilots with actual pilot skill sets.
A bunch of no talent recent graduates is not what the Big Boys will hire any time soon.
Flush all the Regional Lifers over 45 out of the mix, and you have the Big Boys hiring pretty much whomever they please from the military, corporate, and other second tier carriers. The guys who are holding the short end of the stick are the third rate regionals (Masalba, Colgan, Pinnacle, etc) who will continue to be a revolving door to something better.

That's interesting.... a bunch of us third rate guys have been hired at DL, United, American/US Airways, and FedEx.