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Emirates places order for 50 Boeing 777-300 ERs with options for 20 777-300 ERs

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Hey, the fun stuff sounds fun!/it's a great bubble to live in if you play by the bubble rules which in your case seems to work. I would say Southwest is a quality union carrier. Not having that protection is alright if you never have bad luck and you always play by the rules, but life issues happen and I've seen clean cut guys get accused of sexual harassment as one example: it be better for all pilots if the broad spectrum of pay, benefits, prestige, domiciles, protections, so forth were improved.........It be bad if the next generation gets imbedded in their minds that the race to the bottom is fine and dandy
 
Excellent post fairview,,, however you could have added:

- Free Uniform

- Free Luggage

- Free Dry Cleaning

- Interest Free Car Loan

- Yearly Villa/Apartment Restocking Allowance

- KFC and Burger King Have home delivery

It's certainly not perfect over here, but it ain't half bad either.
 
No need to defend anything out of fear. I am sorry you are an ignorant bigot and can't see past your shiny little E145 based in a city that probably has a crime rate in 1 day of what this place has in 1 year.

Plan of action.....Respect the laws where you chose to live. In typical ignorance, as you have displayed in your other posts, you failed to find out the rest of the story about that couple on the beach. The couple was actually under the influence of alcohol, not fully clothed, and fooling around on the beach. Way more than kissing. They were asked by the police to stop, put their clothes back on, and leave. Instead of getting dressed and just leaving, they became belligerent and disrespectful to the officers so they were arrested. Would they have been arrested in the USA for indecent exposure or disorderly conduct. Probably.

You can hope all you want for growth at a "quality carrier" but the customer ultimately makes that decision. Apparently the customer's definition of quality is different from your definition.





Why do you guys so emphatically defend a place that would fire you at the drop of a hat for a honest mistake? I don't get it. It's an OK job, but that's about it. Are saying you want to live out your days in the UAE? Really?
 
Why do you guys so emphatically defend a place that would fire you at the drop of a hat for a honest mistake? I don't get it. It's an OK job, but that's about it. Are saying you want to live out your days in the UAE? Really?

How's JetBlue any different? And ALPA? Really? They'll get your job back IF you're lucky, but just look at what ALPA has done in the last decade or so.

Personally, I think a day off in the UAE could be the same as a day off in [insert major city in US]. It's what you make of it.
 
Why do you guys so emphatically defend a place that would fire you at the drop of a hat for a honest mistake?

what airline today wouldn't?
 
Why do you guys so emphatically defend a place that would fire you at the drop of a hat for a honest mistake? I don't get it. It's an OK job, but that's about it. Are saying you want to live out your days in the UAE? Really?

Who said they wanted to live out their days in the UAE and where was that even implied anywhere?

Why would you defend an airline that fires a guy for being sloppy, blatantly disregarding SOP's, may or may not have almost killed people, and then re-hires them under union pressure knowing full well they have no business in the cockpit? Stupid things happen everywhere...firing a guy because of an honest mistake IS stupid and so is the above scenario.
 
Who said they wanted to live out their days in the UAE and where was that even implied anywhere?

Why would you defend an airline that fires a guy for being sloppy, blatantly disregarding SOP's, may or may not have almost killed people, and then re-hires them under union pressure knowing full well they have no business in the cockpit? Stupid things happen everywhere...firing a guy because of an honest mistake IS stupid and so is the above scenario.

That's part of the union, play the lawyer part including the bad apples. It's not a perfect system, and the reality is the company and the arbitrator hold the final power. It is amazing just how ballsy some pilots are indeed and how far they'll push their luck. But for the 95% that are trying to play by the rules and be a good CRM copilot, union protection is golden and takes a certain amount of stress out of the job.
 
CRX

Spoken like a true professional. You are a credit to the community, your parents and your country.

Bravo

fv
 
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Meanwhile, in the USA, American declares bankruptcy. CEO bails out the night before bankruptcy with his golden parachute. Pilots will have their pension terminated. Their CBA could be tossed like garbage by a BK judge, but most likely, they will have many concessions and pay cuts shoved down their throats. Scope will be eroded further to outsource 70-90 seaters to regionals other than Eagle. Management will award (bonus) to their executive management, and then they will emerge out of bankruptcy as a "new, lower cost" airline.

Seriously........ THAT is the reality of airlines in the US today. The last place anyone should rip on is Emirates. The pay/compensation package is good, the checks clear, and they've always made money. Who's more likely to be around for the next 50 years. American, Delta, United, US Air, or Emirates, Qatar, Etihad? I'd put my money on a Middle Eastern airline any day.


The airline pilot profession in the United States is dead.
 
Just heard a rumour, that BEFORE this big order, EK will not be able to man their -777s by 2014...due to a shortage of pilots.

I think EK is a very nice option for US pilots who are looking overseas. There are also jobs at Qatar, FlyDubai, Etihad, and other Chinese, Asian, and African carriers.

cliff
SYD
 
Just heard a rumour, that BEFORE this big order, EK will not be able to man their -777s by 2014...due to a shortage of pilots.

I think EK is a very nice option for US pilots who are looking overseas. There are also jobs at Qatar, FlyDubai, Etihad, and other Chinese, Asian, and African carriers.

cliff
SYD

All they have to do is drop their 30 ton jet time rule, and they'll have all the applicants they could want from the US alone.
 
Glass half empty kinda guy, aren't ya Kalifornia?

Glass half empty kinda guy, aren't ya Kalifornia?

In regards to the airline pilot profession, absolutely - Tempered enthusiasm leads to sounder judgement. It also helps to create a real pilot shortage versus promoting this career as still the best part time job you can have or other kick yourself mindsets. The funny thing is Emirates could pay out more to the pilots and even offer out of Middle East basing and safety nets but regional Joe from Nickelback Airlines is already kicking back in the recliner at the compound because it is way better than the race to the bottom regional carrier they left::They burn the bridge to a better deal by over promoting the one at hand
 
In regards to the airline pilot profession, absolutely - Tempered enthusiasm leads to sounder judgement. It also helps to create a real pilot shortage versus promoting this career as still the best part time job you can have or other kick yourself mindsets. The funny thing is Emirates could pay out more to the pilots and even offer out of Middle East basing and safety nets but regional Joe from Nickelback Airlines is already kicking back in the recliner at the compound because it is way better than the race to the bottom regional carrier they left::They burn the bridge to a better deal by over promoting the one at hand

You're delusional. Enjoy the Emb-145 XR luxury edition.
 
You're delusional. Enjoy the Emb-145 XR luxury edition.

No, that's the extra extra luxury Long Range Emb-145, let's be fully correct and recognize it's standing in a long line of Shiny Jet Syndrome. Makes all them college flight instructors looking to fly for free droooolllll. They'd fly it from North Korea to Iran to Siberia if given the chance, oh yea!
 
No, that's the extra extra luxury Long Range Emb-145, let's be fully correct and recognize it's standing in a long line of Shiny Jet Syndrome. Makes all them college flight instructors looking to fly for free droooolllll. They'd fly it from North Korea to Iran to Siberia if given the chance, oh yea!

You are a sad person. You lower the standards for everyone. Sad.
 
For people like Kalifornia, the world ends when you hit the California Pacific coastline in the west and the eastern coastline of the US.
 
No that's not quite right, i had a lovely vacation in North Korea 2 months ago, didn't run into Hans Blix, major bummer. But I did visit their space station training facility and Astronaut Comrade Hundyia said the universe ends for people like Flyer1015 between Dirkistan and Dirkistan.

Ce750, I'm just following the lead of every starry eyed pilot. Dude, it would just be awesome to fly the A380. I would pay for my type rating and work for free for the first 6 months to experience it's massive awesomeness. Do they have an XXL version?
 
No that's not quite right, i had a lovely vacation in North Korea 2 months ago, didn't run into Hans Blix, major bummer. But I did visit their space station training facility and Astronaut Comrade Hundyia said the universe ends for people like Flyer1015 between Dirkistan and Dirkistan.

Ce750, I'm just following the lead of every starry eyed pilot. Dude, it would just be awesome to fly the A380. I would pay for my type rating and work for free for the first 6 months to experience it's massive awesomeness. Do they have an XXL version?

You do realize a first year EK pilot outearns every single major FO in America, right? When you look at the tax-free package and housing + benefits included. It isn't shiny jet syndrome. It's $$$$ and the fact that many people are finally just fed up with the aviation landscape here in the US. Your post history proves you don't get out much. I have a hard time believing you've been anywhere outside the USA, save for Canada or Mexico for spring break.
 

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