I've lived in London, Frankfurt and Dubai as well as Asia and N.America.
I would definitely take Dubai over Frankfurt - no question.
London over Dubai except for taxes hence I am here.
Couple of discussion points (and this is not an advertisement to come here – too many personal factors to take into account for this forum):
EK V. AC.
Capt. U. the fact that Ottawa is protecting AC checkmates your point - pure protectionism.
EK's fuel prices: what ever is true nobody knows but they do pay 50% of their fuel costs at market prices at outstations. Bear in mind that they accommodate 11000+ cabin crew and 2500 pilots not to mention mgt and engineers. Transport is also provided for all crew, I digress
The impending over-capacity at EK with the arriving 92 A380's (not sure where the 120 no. came from - not true) needs closer analysis:
EK got these aircraft at rock bottom prices - if you heard the whisper # on campus you would'nt believe it. EADS future was on the line unless they could move 380's - they had only one option: dump inventory to an airline that would be able to utilize them in their network. Over the next 30 years the population growth in the urban areas will double. Largely from Asia & Africa.
Now EK can easily utilize 92 380's, after all the seat increase over a 77W in some cases is only 67 extra seats...back of the envelope say a 20-25% increase in capacity if they replace the aging 777's...compared to a 30-50% increase in global demand. To give an idea - at its height ANA/JAL had over 100 747's operating in their fleets during the 90's. So if demand materializes on the plus side EK keeps the 777/330/340 longer. If it does not then the retirement of these and the delivery of the 380/350's's can be accelerated/slowed respectively.
Throughout EK's history there has been a rich vein of skepticism which in fairness needs to be taken into account. That said the one area in which they are universally respected is managements ability to execute a successful business plan (sometimes sans finesse...grrr!)
I am not defending the ethics of the Emirate or the airline but I can tell you this: I would never bet against their ability to manage their mission; particularly (because of no unions) their ability to react quickly to a crisis changing market.
So if you bet against them; you were right once (1986) out of the their 25 yrs in business,,,but I suspect the the naysayers will be singing the same old time tested tune in May when EK announces $2bn+ in profit..."just wait 'til next year"...
....still waiting.
respectfully,
fv
I would definitely take Dubai over Frankfurt - no question.
London over Dubai except for taxes hence I am here.
Couple of discussion points (and this is not an advertisement to come here – too many personal factors to take into account for this forum):
EK V. AC.
Capt. U. the fact that Ottawa is protecting AC checkmates your point - pure protectionism.
EK's fuel prices: what ever is true nobody knows but they do pay 50% of their fuel costs at market prices at outstations. Bear in mind that they accommodate 11000+ cabin crew and 2500 pilots not to mention mgt and engineers. Transport is also provided for all crew, I digress
The impending over-capacity at EK with the arriving 92 A380's (not sure where the 120 no. came from - not true) needs closer analysis:
EK got these aircraft at rock bottom prices - if you heard the whisper # on campus you would'nt believe it. EADS future was on the line unless they could move 380's - they had only one option: dump inventory to an airline that would be able to utilize them in their network. Over the next 30 years the population growth in the urban areas will double. Largely from Asia & Africa.
Now EK can easily utilize 92 380's, after all the seat increase over a 77W in some cases is only 67 extra seats...back of the envelope say a 20-25% increase in capacity if they replace the aging 777's...compared to a 30-50% increase in global demand. To give an idea - at its height ANA/JAL had over 100 747's operating in their fleets during the 90's. So if demand materializes on the plus side EK keeps the 777/330/340 longer. If it does not then the retirement of these and the delivery of the 380/350's's can be accelerated/slowed respectively.
Throughout EK's history there has been a rich vein of skepticism which in fairness needs to be taken into account. That said the one area in which they are universally respected is managements ability to execute a successful business plan (sometimes sans finesse...grrr!)
I am not defending the ethics of the Emirate or the airline but I can tell you this: I would never bet against their ability to manage their mission; particularly (because of no unions) their ability to react quickly to a crisis changing market.
So if you bet against them; you were right once (1986) out of the their 25 yrs in business,,,but I suspect the the naysayers will be singing the same old time tested tune in May when EK announces $2bn+ in profit..."just wait 'til next year"...
....still waiting.
respectfully,
fv
