Embry Riddle.....the Harvard of flight schools

[V-STALL]

I don't know who COEX is and I've never heard of them while I was at CAPT. I still don't know who they are. I'm not quite sure where this COEX came from but I went through CAPT, I think I know what options were available to me.

COEX= Continental Express, XJet, ExpressJet whatever you want to call them.

 

[Flying Ninja]

V-Stall,

Oh yes! Continental Express! Let me tell you something about CAPT and COEX (now that I know who they are I'll use their code). CAPT told us before and after I entered the program that they got stuff going on with COEX and AirTran and that AirTran was going to hire our first two graduates. Well, that turned out to be a BIG lie. They even were dumb enough to invite the COO of AirTran to one of our functions and I flat out asked him what it takes to get into AirTran. He said at least 3000TT and 121/135 operation experience. So...CAPT lied.

Getting back to COEX. They blew so much sunshine up our a$$es about that airline. It was always the "they're going to get back to us" or the "they said they're willing to work with us" or the we're looking to get together with them next week; which never happens. This is some of the more recent stuff that CAPT was telling us about COEX:

5/11/06: "ExpressJet--now that the 69 A/C debacle is decided, I have recently corresponded with them--awaiting word"
3/16/06: "ExpressJet--Still working it. The 65/69 a/c uncertainty is still be used as an excuse why they have tried us yet, but it now appears we are about to break through that barrier."
1/30/06: "ExpressJet—was not at the conference so I will be talking to them next week via telephone."
1/26/06: "No word yet from ExpresJet, but I expect to meet them in Dallas. We are close--don't have a time line."
1/21/06: "I have not heard back from ExpressJet yet but I will be talking to them next week. I do not expect ExpressJet to be much longer in agreeing to work with us."
1/16/06: "Discussions with ExpressJet Chief Pilot Joe Seitz went very well. He will be in IAH Thursday of this week and will strongly urge his bosses to take CAPT resumes. If anyone has 500 to 600 flight hours, we should be able to get them to take yours now."
1/6/06: "ExpressJet Chief Pilot to be guest speaker for graduation on 13th--ExpressJet believed to be close in working with us."
7/18/05: "ExpressJet--coordinating a date"

Anyway, you get the picture...if I find more I'll update this post with more. I loved the "if anyone has 500 to 600 hours". First of all, they're so retarded that they have no idea how many hours their cadets have. And with the 225 hours that they give you, why do they even bother saying 500-600 for an ab initio program where cadets graduate between 180-225 hours on the books? Retarded.

 

[gkrangers]

They didn't say "airline of your choice". They said airline, Pinnacle is one, and it sounds like they woulda gave you a shot, and you didn't take it. That is YOUR problem....

And the airlines don't HAVE to hire you...

 

[KaptainKarl]

If you've ever been to GRAND forks, then you know what a fat, grain fed, acne,-riddled, heffer looks like. I mean, my god, I've seen better women at tractor pulls. And as for the guys, these ego-maniacs can't even get laid there.

 

[V-STALL]

Hey Flying Ninja-

I just went back and read some of your past posts. From the sounds of it, as I stated previously it sounds like you didn't get any offers because of your bad attitude. Perhaps you did get a raw deal from Riddle- but you are the only one responsible for your future, and with your attitde you wouldn't even get a job picking up trash. Act like a big boy and take some responsiblity for your career, or lack there of.:crying:

 

[Flying Ninja]

V-Stall,

My attitude was fine before CAPT screwed me. You got to remember I'm now 7 months out from graduation. I'm DONE looking for an airline job. This whole thing is about showing people that CAPT didn't live up to their advertisements. Yes, I'm taking responsibility. I'm now educating people with the bullsh!t CAPT gave me so that people don't fall victim of their line of crap. There's 17 months of history that I just can't put into words here. I'm a changed man as a result of CAPT...maybe for the worse but one thing is for sure, they are a bunch of f*ck nuts. And it is congruent with what this thread's feeling is toward Riddle. Yeah, my attitude sucks...if I wanted to get into this career. But I don't anymore. And how the hell are airlines supposed to know what my attitude is from my resume (template that CAPT forced me to use)?

gkrangers,

If someone offered you a choice of sirloin steak (ASA) or cow anus (Focus, Pinnacle), what would you choose? I left the dinner table. Enough said.

 

[gkrangers]

Well the bottom line is CAPT coulda got you a job....they never said good job.

Now you are on your own. Why don't you bother them to try and get you an interview with the cow anus now?

You know what? You aren't even worthy of cow anus. You are worthy of a cubicle at 25' AGL.

 

[V-STALL]

gkrangers,

If someone offered you a choice of sirloin steak (ASA) or cow anus (Focus, Pinnacle), what would you choose? I left the dinner table. Enough said.

Wow!!!!!:angryfire

 

[KingAir1985]

Embry riddle grads are far better pilots and that is reflected in their quicker advancement, superior job performance and higher salaries as compared to Joe's fLite shak FBO grads.

wait no they aren't

Thankyou, that is all.

 

[V-STALL]

V-Stall,

My attitude was fine before CAPT screwed me. You got to remember I'm now 7 months out from graduation. I'm DONE looking for an airline job. This whole thing is about showing people that CAPT didn't live up to their advertisements. Yes, I'm taking responsibility. I'm now educating people with the bullsh!t CAPT gave me so that people don't fall victim of their line of crap. There's 17 months of history that I just can't put into words here. I'm a changed man as a result of CAPT...maybe for the worse but one thing is for sure, they are a bunch of f*ck nuts. And it is congruent with what this thread's feeling is toward Riddle. Yeah, my attitude sucks...if I wanted to get into this career. But I don't anymore. And how the hell are airlines supposed to know what my attitude is from my resume (template that CAPT forced me to use)?
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Does CAPT offer anger mgmt classes? :angryfire

 

[Flying Ninja]

gkrangers,

Good question. Well, I'm at a point where I need to pay back the loan. I'm out of grace and my loan payments are $1000/month and climbing due to interest rate increases. Even if I did get an interview at PNCL and get the job and all that, I wouldn't make enough to cover living expenses. My plan was to get through CAPT and budgeted on the safe side of the 12 months of their 10-12 month program. I had also a reserve for six months to start in a new city after CAPT. Money that I allotted for post CAPT life; starting in a new city. Well, that money was used to cover living expenses for the additional 5 months at CAPT due to their incompetence and mismanagement. And I was not placed within a month of two after graduation so I'm flat broke. I can't move even if I wanted to. I'm grounded indefinitely from entering into this career. I blew through all my savings. Even my 401(k) has been emptied.

 

[gkrangers]

Tough ********************.

 

[Flying Ninja]

Does CAPT offer anger mgmt classes? :angryfire

Funny you mentioned that. They did offer an anger management seminar that most of us attended. It turned out to be free pizza and a slide show about how wonderful CAPT's training program is. The last 2 slides of several dozen was about anger management...which lasted a few minutes. It then turned into a b!tch session from cadets complaining about how the ground classes were a joke and that CAPT need to increase their standards. Man, keep posting! I keep remembering all these f*cked up things at CAPT that I brushed off (trying to be all positive attitude and idealistic).

 

[777_Jackpot]

Oh, on the Riddle thing...f*ck Riddle and f*ck their now broke a$$ CAPT program. They both know how to do one thing well: take your money and run!!!

CAPT worked for me. Maybe you're just not good.

 

[Flying Ninja]

CAPT worked for me. Maybe you're just not good.

Maybe you're right. And that only proves that CAPT produces crap pilots. Thanks for supporting my point!

 

[gkrangers]

I go to one of the residential campuses...if you don't learn this quick you will have trouble at Riddle, and most colleges. Do not let them push you around! You want something, make them understand that. Don't just stand there and nod as they talk you into or out of something. My friend was like this and it took him months to get out of the flight program and to change his major, cuz he was being a huge wimp.

(I've never once flown at Riddle..too structured for me, but some like it, and its just regular flight training, no promises, private through CFI and a good chance of being hired as a CFI, like any other flight school. So while I don't personally like the program, I can't really bash it that much either.)

If you didn't feel like you were getting what you wanted, you shoulda complained 7 months ago when you were still in the program! Not now!

You need to have some personal responsbility for something so serious as this...

AND, if this totally turned you off from aviation, thats a good thing! Means you aren't really cut out for it and woulda ******************** a brick after your first furlough or bankruptcy anyway!

 

[Flying Ninja]

Hehehe...if all this translates to avoiding a first bankruptcy, then I made the right choice by ditching aviation. I'll leave it for the rich boys (and girls) who can afford to do it for peanuts. I don't have the bank roll to play with you high rollers.

P.S. CAPT does not graduate you with a CFI. Just 225 hours and a kick in the a$$.

 

[gkrangers]

Hehehe...if all this translates to avoiding a first bankruptcy, then I made the right choice by ditching aviation. I'll leave it for the rich boys (and girls) who can afford to do it for peanuts. I don't have the bank roll to play with you high rollers.

P.S. CAPT does not graduate you with a CFI. Just 225 hours and a kick in the a$$.

And a job..which you apparently declined. Stop crying, realize your mistakes, and get on with your life and build a better future for yourself.

One less malcontent I'll have to deal with later on.

 

[Flying Ninja]

CAPT worked for me. Maybe you're just not good.

Also, I just saw that on 6/10/2004 you posted:

"I believe Western Michigan University is offering flight training separate from the university now, Part 141. They offer training through MEI."

If CAPT worked for you, why did you suggest a school OTHER than CAPT? Hrm...

 

[Flying Ninja]

And a job..which you apparently declined. Stop crying, realize your mistakes, and get on with your life and build a better future for yourself.

One less malcontent I'll have to deal with later on.

You can't decline a job you were never offered. And I do realize my mistakes (by going to CAPT). That's why I'm sharing my story so that others who think CAPT is all that can get another side of the story. I think you guys call it not drinking the kool-aid. And I am getting on with my life. Just a life that includes making sure prospective students looking for information on flight schools don't go to CAPT.

 

[gkrangers]

I don't know why you didn't apply to all the carriers...no use being picky.

 

[Flying Ninja]

ASA was the creme de la creme of what CAPT had to offer. Thanks to delays at CAPT, my resume didn't make it in fast enough before they put a hold on things.

Pinnacle was suffering from all sorts of instability along with NWA's mess.

Focus Air is an opportunity with an up-start (which I had enough of in my past career) to be someone's b!tch for a year doing paper pushing (which I can make a lot more outside of aviation and was NOT what I went to CAPT for). Then they offer you FE training for your second year. And in the contract, IF they have availability, they will offer you right seat. That's 2 years and a BIG IF for me.

My goal was to capture a dream after so many years of not knowing I could have done it (thanks high school guidance counselor). I wanted a fast way to get in at my age. I didn't want to waste time with CFI. I wanted a short, intense training to get me qualified. CAPT met all my requirements with a Riddle reputation to boot! After CAPT, with low time, you're not applying anywhere except where THEY decide to sent your resume.

 

[arthompson]

get a corporate job in the right seat, build some time, and go from there. If you don't want to come to Pinnacle thats fine, but first year FO pay is going to be less than what you're expecting anywhere you go. As for the loans, once you're working you can use proof of income to get them defered.

 

[Flying Ninja]

get a corporate job in the right seat, build some time, and go from there. If you don't want to come to Pinnacle thats fine, but first year FO pay is going to be less than what you're expecting anywhere you go. As for the loans, once you're working you can use proof of income to get them defered.

Hey, if you know a corporate job that will take my time, I'm listening.

 

[arthompson]

I think Davison is hiring either at RSN or in BTR, not sure though. I know several people that flew for him from the right seat, low time. Otherwise there is PCL, we'd be glad to have you and again, you can get your loans defered based on income, I'm doing it.

 

[wahoo250]

Hey, if you know a corporate job that will take my time, I'm listening.

a lot of corp gigs will pay you more in the right seat than youll make in the left seat at a 121...

 

[xjlifer]

My house keeper graduated form there about two years ago................. She keeps telling me how a vacuum works but can't use it for some reason.

He He...that was a good one.

 

[Flying Ninja]

I can't seem to find any information on Davison. Does anyone have a web site for them?

wahoo250,

What corporate gig hires low time pilots? Not to bust your bubble but everywhere I look they're looking for hours in the thousands, not low hundreds.

 

[Prop2Jet]

it keeps going and going and going and going.....

 

[V-STALL]

I can't seem to find any information on Davison. Does anyone have a web site for them?

wahoo250,

What corporate gig hires low time pilots? Not to bust your bubble but everywhere I look they're looking for hours in the thousands, not low hundreds.

Funny F Ninja- you want everyone else to do all the work for you. You are very lazy! To quote you from some of your past posts-

"Thanks, I gave up on aviation so you can sleep tight now."

"Thanks McNugget for the fuel guy for flight idea. I'm really not interested in making money flying airplanes. And I certainly don't want to be sitting right seat telling some guy "more right rudder" and not flying the plane outside of a 15 NM radius from the airport. "

"How to whore myself out?
Does anyone have any information or clarification on FARs regarding someone who is interested in whoring himself out as a pilot? Basically, I'm looking to fly on the weekends (out and backs) but I don't have any money to do so. My credentials:

Private ASEL, AMEL
Commercial ASEL, AMEL
Instrument
459TT/101ME"

Your a real winner F Ninja! I personally would go out of my way to offer you a position flying my aircraft-NOT!!!!