EMB175 Coming to A-Tech … a carrot on a stick?

[Oakum_Boy]

I checked out the E-175 on the Embraer website. I don't think I want to go back school and be responsible for this mainline plane for what- five more dollars per hour? If I could bid the -700 and avoid the -900 altogether, I would.

 

[AntiJedi]

I heard a rumor that we're getting some planes from Russia, too.

 

[Erlanger]

1) Expect SkyWest Inc to but the new 175s with the new engines otherwise Jerry is not interested. 2)The MRJs is dead. The deal signed was just a ploy. Jerry had no intentions of buying them.

 

[COOPERVANE]

1) Expect SkyWest Inc to but the new 175s with the new engines otherwise Jerry is not interested. 2)The MRJs is dead. The deal signed was just a ploy. Jerry had no intentions of buying them.

That was my theory. Just some maneuvering to hopefully get Embraer to offer better terms.

 

[Speedtape]

Does anyone think Bedford is showing off CRJ900s to RAH employees?

Looks like this a sign of why the AMR flying was lost. Mainline carriers want the E jets.

And I know someone will mention the Delta 40 900s, which was solely because the deal included returning the CRJ200s

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American flying was not lost, only one small award of 43 aircraft--leaving about 257 more to go. How do you know Inc even bid on what Republic was awarded? Brad Rich mentioned in the earnings call, that there were some very specific issues in that award that favored Republic only.

As far as American awards, with the merger, there will be close to 300 aircraft in this seat range that will be allowed. NO ONE CARRIER will get it all. There are only about 2 carriers in the game that have the financial resources to play. INC is one of them. Be assured, they will not bid on any flying that they cannot make money on. Repulic has some history of bidding on flying that does not make money. That's one of the major flaws that Pinnacle made and why they failed.

Inc, (including Skywest Airlines and ExpressJet) will obtain all the business they want between American and United. But, Inc want get it all.

E-175s are in INC's future. You will see evidence in the near future.

 

[Speedtape]

Its in SGU at OO headquarters today... If they wanted to show it to OO pilots SGU IS NOT the place... Its just a sales tour.

With all due respect, OO pilots don't write the check, OO headquarters does.

INC will be purchasing these aircraft in the future. The timing is ripe--a hungry manufacturer with few orders on the book, willing to negotiate the right price; and a Corporation with an excellent financial position poised to capture abundant opportunities! It doesn't get any better than that.

We work for a Corporation that manages their business entities well. They would be successful in any business and in any industry. This is evidenced by the success they have enjoyed in the regional airline industry--one that has a high mortality rate.

 

[Speedtape]

1) Expect SkyWest Inc to but the new 175s with the new engines otherwise Jerry is not interested. 2)The MRJs is dead. The deal signed was just a ploy. Jerry had no intentions of buying them.

I approve this message! Agreed; it's all about leverage and creating it when you can.

 

[AntiJedi]

1) Expect SkyWest Inc to but the new 175s with the new engines otherwise Jerry is not interested. 2)The MRJs is dead. The deal signed was just a ploy. Jerry had no intentions of buying them.

I don't think so at all. They've mentioned before that they don't want to throw all of their eggs in one basket.

 

[JustaNumber]

Republic has some history of bidding on flying that does not make money. That's one of the major flaws that Pinnacle made and why they failed.

Wait, Pinnacle failed?!? I think the plan was executed flawlessly.

 

[Freebrd]

When was the last time? I've been here 5 years and never saw or heard of a demo at A Tech.

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what a carrot stick you are, this Co is over 30 years old, and justvabout all the planes swing by the office, 5 years and you know all the past history huh, I think not

 

[wms]

There was an e170 demo in the mid 2000s at Asa when we were still owned by dal.

 

[wms]

1) Expect SkyWest Inc to but the new 175s with the new engines otherwise Jerry is not interested. 2)The MRJs is dead. The deal signed was just a ploy. Jerry had no intentions of buying them.

The mgr of aircraft ops at xjet is in sgu working on mrj program development. It may end up a ploy, but now it's a developing program.

 

[General Lee]

The mgr of aircraft ops at xjet is in sgu working on mrj program development. It may end up a ploy, but now it's a developing program.

Yes, but what is the status of the MRJ program itself? I had an FAA MX inspector on the jumpseat from Nagoya, Japan (where the MRJ will be built) to Honolulu and he said the program over there was "interesting." What does that mean? Good question. I'm looking forward to looking at pictures of the initial test flight and seeing what that thing can do. Let's hope that happens sometime in the next few years......


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

Why didn't YOU ask him what he meant by "interesting" putz! You know, beings you're attempting to stir it up huh.

 

[General Lee]

Why didn't YOU ask him what he meant by "interesting" putz! You know, beings you're attempting to stir it up huh.

I did. That's all I can say. I wish you guys the best! Good luck with the new jet, I bet it will be awesome, eventually.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[flyboyike]

I did. That's all I can say. I wish you guys the best! Good luck with the new jet, I bet it will be awesome, eventually.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Why would you care about the MRJ?

 

[Freebrd]

Jenny doesn't care, she's just trying to stir things up. Typical of her to make a useless and uninformative comment about something. PUTZ!

 

[General Lee]

Why would you care about the MRJ?

Hmmmmm. REALLY? Why would I care about an order for a totally new jet (untested yet.....) that really hasn't been assigned yet to an airline for feed, unless SkyWest wants to go Indy Air? Who doesn't care about that? Sounds like a very interesting operation, or a complete Cluster F. I can't wait to watch how this plays out. Why would anyone go for a totally untested airplane from a manufacturer that really doesn't build airliners yet? It must have been REALLY CHEAP. Oh well, I hope it works out for them....

Maybe Freebrd is holding out going somewhere else (can't do it anyway thanks to wasted years in Vietnam flying SIC....?), in the hopes that he can see his long lost love, Dahni? Maybe IT will fly up to Nagoya to see him ferry the planes back to SGU..... Now that is TRUE love....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Jenny doesn't care, she's just trying to stir things up. Typical of her to make a useless and uninformative comment about something. PUTZ!

Making things up? Go look up where the manufacturer is trying to build the thing, and try to think of pre certification, and all of the things the FAA would have to look at, at each stage of production, for it to be certified. Then, look at a route map and see if an FAA guy could jump to HNL from there, and then back to the US. (he could have also gone nonstop to DTW from there too, but I think he wanted a few sunny days in Paradise) When you're done with all that, call up Dahni and cry to it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[AntiJedi]

Hmmmmm. REALLY? Why would I care about an order for a totally new jet (untested yet.....) that really hasn't been assigned yet to an airline for feed, unless SkyWest wants to go Indy Air? Who doesn't care about that? Sounds like a very interesting operation, or a complete Cluster F. I can't wait to watch how this plays out. Why would anyone go for a totally untested airplane from a manufacturer that really doesn't build airliners yet? It must have been REALLY CHEAP. Oh well, I hope it works out for them....

Maybe Freebrd is holding out going somewhere else (can't do it anyway thanks to wasted years in Vietnam flying SIC....?), in the hopes that he can see his long lost love, Dahni? Maybe IT will fly up to Nagoya to see him ferry the planes back to SGU..... Now that is TRUE love....


Bye Bye---General Lee

Calm down, boys.

At one time, Airbus was a totally untested manufacturer, with totally untested airplanes. At one time, Canadair was a untested manufacturer, with totally untested airplanes. I can keep going back the days of Boeing and Douglas, if I cared to.

The thing is, anytime there's a new entrant, it's gauranteed that there's uncertainty, but you know what? Even established and enviable companies can make products that are utter disasters from time to time. Prime example are the Comet and L-188. They nearly doomed their manufacturers, but they still managed to pull through.

Also, it's not like the Mitsubishi hasn't built airliners before. They have. It's just that no one remembers that they did. Lockheed hasn't built a large transport in a good while, and they haven't built an airliner in 30 years, but I doubt they'd have trouble hopping back into the game.

Anyhow, my basic point is this: Let things play out. If ******************** happens, then it happens, but there's no need to doom something before it even becomes reality based simply on hearsay and conjecture.