Superpilot92 said:XRs is all Embraer should have made. they are much better than the ERs and LRs.
Whydoitry said:Did you still have the flaps at 9? .
Whydoitry said:Did you still have the flaps at 9? What were the conditions? I've never seen an XR perform like you describe.
ATRedneck said:Yeah, it almost climbs like a jet.
I had one the other day, 12-something, that wouldn't do .78, much less .80. We kept it in E-CLB and it'd barely do .76.
Granted, the XR is the thoroughbred of the 145 fleet (if there is one), but it's still about as durable as a disposable camera. If they get 15 years out of them, they'll be lucky.
captjim said:The next time your unable to get an XR above .76, take a look at what ISA is. Then take a look at the flight plan, I bet ISA on the flight plan and the speed you're doing is what's on paper.
ATRedneck said:It was at FL350, ISA +10. Paperwork said .78, never got close. Trust me, this ain't my first rodeo.
I think that whatever dispatch uses to figure performance is dead-on balls wrong. Look at the fuel flow figures, for one. Have you ever seen this Brazillian bucket do .78 at 2500 PPH? At 48,000 pounds? It can if you believe the paperwork.
Britpilot said:I don't know how you fly the airplane but I rarely have a problem making planned cruise speed and fuel burn for the flight is usually within 300 pounds of planned.
Nova said:So is your beef with the airplane or dispatch?
Nova said:You must be a blast to deal with when splitting the check.
ATRedneck said:Well golly, I guess my straight-and-level-in-the-detents must be different than the checkairman way of flying straight ahead with the thrust set.
I defy you to cruise this sh!tbucket out at TOC, 1250 PPH per side, and get .78 out of it like the flight plan says most of the time. And yes, I know all about letting it speed up before setting cruise thrust.
It's just that I hear guys at work all the time talking about how badass the XR is, when in reality it's just less crappy than the other 145s.
ATRedneck said:Neither one. I have a pretty good idea of what the airplane is capable of, and I take the release with a grain of salt... I know guys who accept the Almighty Smith Street Paperwork as the gospel truth, and those are the guys who paint themselves into corners.
The problem is that too many guys think this airplane is so sh!t-hot and have convinced themselves that it's a career airplane at a career airline, when in fact it's neither. They've just spent too much time in the seat they were in when the music stopped.
I know the next question is , "What do you expect them to do? Nobody's hiring!" which is a totally valid observation, to which I have no answers. It just sucks that what was supposed to have been a stepping stone has become a campground, which might get all jacked up after 2007.
You ever watch Most Extreme Elimination Challenge on Spike TV? You know the competition where they run across the pond on rocks, some of which are fixed and some of which will sink when stepped on? Well guess which rock the almighty Embraer 145 XR is... I think too many guys have forgotten that.