EJA to layoff 500

Status
Not open for further replies.

westwind driver

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 5, 2004
Posts
147
Total Time
&#8730
Just as a FYI and heads up. I know many of you expected this to come...

I talked to a very reliable source today, a VP at a company directly related to EJA. The word is EJA will be laying off 500 pilots here in the very near future. Best of luck to you guys. While I trust the information I was given, I hope it does not in fact come to fruition. Not good times at all.
 

johnsonrod

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 25, 2006
Posts
4,218
Total Time
8000+
I hope that doesn't come to fruition either. I recently met a few people there who would be on the bubble.

Any word on which aircraft types would likely be grounded/parked? Some from each fleet or specific fleet types parked? Have specific fleets already been impacted (i.e., the Ultra)?

Good luck to all!
 
Last edited:

Ineedabrew

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 2, 2004
Posts
126
Total Time
4000+
I already have a friend looking for work. I think people who are affected already know what’s coming down the road. It is sad very sad. I heard from him last week so something is brewing.
 

BoilerUP

Citation style...
Joined
Nov 11, 2003
Posts
5,311
Total Time
1500+
I know discussing bad news at NJA on Flightinfo is akin to talking about Fight Club...but rumors about this have been spreading since Santulli "retired to spend more time with his family" and even moreso after so many office staff were laid off a short while back.

I know at least a half-dozen folks in the bottom 500, including my former CP and a very close friend. Best of luck to all, and hopefully any cuts that do happen won't need to go quite so deep.
 

Downwind

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 14, 2006
Posts
382
Total Time
4500
Just as a FYI and heads up. I know many of you expected this to come...

I talked to a very reliable source today, a VP at a company directly related to EJA. The word is EJA will be laying off 500 pilots here in the very near future. Best of luck to you guys. While I trust the information I was given, I hope it does not in fact come to fruition. Not good times at all.
Your friend is assuming that 500 is the max. It may be just the beginning.
 

Downwind

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 14, 2006
Posts
382
Total Time
4500
Any word on which aircraft types would likely be grounded/parked? Some from each fleet or specific fleet types parked? Have specific fleets already been impacted (i.e., the Ultra)?
Yes. Thought I don't know if that is public info yet.
 

westwind driver

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 5, 2004
Posts
147
Total Time
&#8730
I wasn't told about specific fleets, and truth be told my guy kinda backed up after he said it. One of those you didn't hear it from me type of things. I know rumors have been floating around for months now, but I can say to the best of my knowledge this is legit. I wish I knew for sure though. I have a friend who flies on the XL/XLS and was just recently hired within the last 2 years. If I do hear anymore (even if spoken out of school) I'll post. Certainly if others have more info I think people here might appreciate a further heads up.
 

can99

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 8, 2005
Posts
127
Total Time
5000+
God help anyone on the unemployment line already if this happens, lets hope it doesnt!
 

o2bflyn

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 18, 2008
Posts
482
Total Time
>40
I wasn't told about specific fleets, and truth be told my guy kinda backed up after he said it. One of those you didn't hear it from me type of things. I know rumors have been floating around for months now, but I can say to the best of my knowledge this is legit. I wish I knew for sure though. I have a friend who flies on the XL/XLS and was just recently hired within the last 2 years. If I do hear anymore (even if spoken out of school) I'll post. Certainly if others have more info I think people here might appreciate a further heads up.
Please don't! The last thing people need to hear now is rumors. That is all this is. I am sure you feel your source is reliable, but it is still a rumor.

Everyone at NJA knows the situation. The last thing anyone needs is unprovable rumors. Especially on a public message board.
 

Pervis

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 12, 2005
Posts
1,609
Total Time
12000+
First of all, any furloughs would be by reverse seniority, regardless of fleet.

Second of all, there are plans for certain fleet disposals-per the CBA. We've done that before, like the CE 650 and Hawker 1000. It's not new nor a secret that the Ultra is aging and in disposal. There may be others, but I believe a move to consolidate and modernize is a good thing in the short and long term.

And finally, there was a name change a number of years ago from EJA to NJA. Again, no secret there. It may be just an oversite, but one has to question the source when they use the wrong/old name.
 

o2bflyn

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 18, 2008
Posts
482
Total Time
>40
First of all, any furloughs would be by reverse seniority, regardless of fleet.

Second of all, there are plans for certain fleet disposals-per the CBA. We've done that before, like the CE 650 and Hawker 1000. It's not new nor a secret that the Ultra is aging and in disposal. There may be others, but I believe a move to consolidate and modernize is a good thing in the short and long term.

And finally, there was a name change a number of years ago from EJA to NJA. Again, no secret there. It may be just an oversite, but one has to question the source when they use the wrong/old name.
I missed that one completely. Excellent point. I agree, may be an oversight, but that is the kind of mistake a VP, or someone claiming to know a VP, should not get wrong.
 

BoilerUP

Citation style...
Joined
Nov 11, 2003
Posts
5,311
Total Time
1500+
The ATC identifier is still EJA...

What about the Beechjet fleet? Hasn't that thing been a major failure in the NJA system?
 

o2bflyn

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 18, 2008
Posts
482
Total Time
>40
The ATC identifier is still EJA...

What about the Beechjet fleet? Hasn't that thing been a major failure in the NJA system?
well aware of that, but normally people don't use callsigns (ATC identifiers included) in conversation or message boards.

My point in all this is: DON'T SPREAD RUMORS! WAIT FOR THE FACTS.

For the record, The Beechjet is a major failure period. ;)
 

RNObased

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 11, 2005
Posts
848
Total Time
10,000
What about the Beechjet fleet? Hasn't that thing been a major failure in the NJA system?
Well obviously Ken Ricci doesn't think that the Beechjet is a failure or he won't be hip deep in this Nextant crap. He is going to make the beechjet into the best thing ever!! LOL
 

xrated

Jeezz, What have I Done?
Joined
Jan 27, 2002
Posts
654
Total Time
Huh?
Please don't! The last thing people need to hear now is rumors. That is all this is. I am sure you feel your source is reliable, but it is still a rumor.

Everyone at NJA knows the situation. The last thing anyone needs is unprovable rumors. Especially on a public message board.

Ah....I suggest if your feelings get hurt by rumors, you should avoid public message boards. While rumors may or may not come to fruition, the depth of this one sounds like it has some merit. Perhaps because of it, somebody who is about to hit the street soon may think twice about a big purchase or even get warmed up looking for employment elsewhere.
 

sshrae

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 8, 2008
Posts
361
Total Time
7000
Ah....I suggest if your feelings get hurt by rumors, you should avoid public message boards. While rumors may or may not come to fruition, the depth of this one sounds like it has some merit. Perhaps because of it, somebody who is about to hit the street soon may think twice about a big purchase or even get warmed up looking for employment elsewhere.
You don't think people who would be affected by a layoff had any idea until reading this? Nobody is buying a bigger house right now that is on the bottom of the list. All people are saying is keep a lid on it until it actually happens or notices actually go out. Just throwing numbers out there isn't helping anybody.
 

Downwind

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 14, 2006
Posts
382
Total Time
4500
Perhaps because of it, somebody who is about to hit the street soon may think twice about a big purchase or even get warmed up looking for employment elsewhere.
If we have guys/gals so oblivious to the current situation that they are getting "breaking news" from FI.com then they have much bigger problems in life.

Rest assured, our seniority list from top to bottom is well aware of the companies situation and the potential effects on the pilot group.

News about NJA here serves the interest of outsiders and provides no benefit or insight to those of us answering to CMH.
 

sshrae

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 8, 2008
Posts
361
Total Time
7000
If we have guys/gals so oblivious to the current situation that they are getting "breaking news" from FI.com then they have much bigger problems in life.

Rest assured, our seniority list from top to bottom is well aware of the companies situation and the potential effects on the pilot group.

News about NJA here serves the interest of outsiders and provides no benefit or insight to those of us answering to CMH.
Well said.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top