Re: Can't we all get along?
I have heard KRs message word for word. There is NO mention of Netjets contacting Options owners. However, he is 150% INCORRECT about the statements he made about the Netjets operations center. He stated that there is "no centralized area/room" where the fleet teams operate. Has he BEEN to CMH in the last few years? He is wrong. Most of his previous messages have directed FLT Ops crews to ‘brag" about the good "culture" at Flight Options to competing fractional pilots. Is there a reason this is necessary?
-conclusion….bad cool-aid.
"You would never see an add promoting the pilots, or the pilots pay at Net Jets!"
Why should we? You advertise for owners, the pilots aren’t the ones buying the aircraft?
"Its also a fact that NetJets is losing their market share. It has gone down the last few years and continues to go down. That is ARGUS/US info. "
1. Netjets is using a totally different demographic for an owner base.
2. EJA still holds approx 50% of the market share. The other 50% is shared by 4 (now 3) other fractionals.
3. Percentages of market share are smoke and mirrors. FLT LLC has always advertised themselves as the "fastest growing" fractional. (based on percentage). OK, here is a simple test. Which is growing faster, going from 100 owners to 200 owners in one year, vs. going from 1500 owners to 2000 owners in one year? Yes, the percentage in the first example is growing faster, but who added more owners????
4. Darnell H. Martens Assistant to the Chairman at Flight Options is the co-founder and Vice President of Aviation Research Group/U.S. (ARG/US), and was formerly employed by EJA.
Not exactly an UNBIASED source of information.
5. Why has ARG not listed # of owners added instead of % of growth?
Conclusion- more bad cool-aid.
"Yes, they are growing but not as fast as the others percentage wise. "
-See answer 3 above
"Flight Options also has many owners that have left Net Jets. "
Flight Options has had many PILOTS that left to go to Netjets.
"So the largest? Yes, for now. "
Probably not forever. There will always be more pre-owned aircraft on the market than new, and there will also be more owners that are on a tighter budget.
These are different companies with different motivations. I have met many fine FLT Ops pilots on the road that I enjoyed talking too. But with the information I have gained, I too am happy to be where I am.
There are still a lot of misconceptions about EJA in the industry, perpetuated mainly from people on the outside.
PS….gunfyter
"Our management had the gall to produce recruitment pamphlets bragging about the fact that 3rd year pilots can make $60k per year! And THEY are PROUD of it! 3rd year Citation X Captains running around making $60k! The sad part is its not even true. 3rd year Captains make ONLY $47K. "
The ad (2 years ago) stated 60K after completing 3 years, which would make it 4th year Capt’s pay. It was a play on words, and from my W2 at the time, it's fairly close to accurate. However, I agree with your intent, it is sadly low. But, we know what is coming.