Eagle to Furlough Hundreds

[AWACoff]

XPOO, do all of us a favor and go to www.DispatchInfo.com because we don't care about anything you write. You're an ill-tempered desk jockey. Since you were never able to make it as a pilot, you derive satisfaction in life from hobnobbing with us. You are that loser kid with no self esteem that always seems to hang out on the fringe of the group. We mock you and laugh at you constantly. Can I make it any clearer?

Get back to work pushing those papers. Oh, and keep reminding yourself that you and the captain share the responsibility for a flight 50/50.

 

[Superpilot92]

XPOO, do all of us a favor and go to www.DispatchInfo.com because we don't care about anything you write. You're an ill-tempered desk jockey. Since you were never able to make it as a pilot, you derive satisfaction in life from hobnobbing with us. You are that loser kid with no self esteem that always seems to hang out on the fringe of the group. We mock you and laugh at you constantly. Can I make it any clearer?

Get back to work pushing those papers. Oh, and keep reminding yourself that you and the captain share the responsibility for a flight 50/50.

I was wondering when someone was going to say it. :laugh:

 

[olympus593]

The airlines are in the ********************ter, Eagle is going to park airplanes and (hopefully not) furlought/downgrade people are you guy's are fighting about spelling unf-u-c-k-ing believable.

 

[relief tube]

how does going from 55 to 33 dep. equate to "hundreds of furloughs"? By my math thats only 16 pilots.

Anyway, lets let the newspaper editors do the job of over-doing everything. Especially when talking about the F-word, how about only calling it what it is.

 

[J.Otto]

XPOO, do all of us a favor and go to www.DispatchInfo.com because we don't care about anything you write. You're an ill-tempered desk jockey. Since you were never able to make it as a pilot, you derive satisfaction in life from hobnobbing with us. You are that loser kid with no self esteem that always seems to hang out on the fringe of the group. We mock you and laugh at you constantly. Can I make it any clearer?

Get back to work pushing those papers. Oh, and keep reminding yourself that you and the captain share the responsibility for a flight 50/50.

Ease up there. That's your temper talking. There's plenty a dispatcher can contribute to an aviation message board. Think of it as F.I. CRM.

 

[Rizzo]

how does going from 55 to 33 dep. equate to "hundreds of furloughs"? By my math thats only 16 pilots.

Anyway, lets let the newspaper editors do the job of over-doing everything. Especially when talking about the F-word, how about only calling it what it is.

But they are also parking the Saabs. Usually 7 crews (14 pilots) per plane. Not sure how many Saabs they have.

 

[Swaayze]

how does going from 55 to 33 dep. equate to "hundreds of furloughs"? By my math thats only 16 pilots.

Because your math is either not good or you aren't using proper values for your variables. 55 reduced to 33 departures each day results in approximately 40% fewer pilots required in that operation. This is only the tip of the iceberg at Eagle, with all 25ish active Saabs being parked so these excess ATRs will have a home. So far it looks like we'll be losing some 65ish active airplanes starting September 3, resulting in an excess of about 600 pilots. Take our current shortage of 200 out and you're looking at about 400 furloughs and half as many downgrades.

 

[FOAgain]

Does my avatar have to be retired as well? I really don't want to replace it with an ATR. They are just too g'dam ugly.

 

[DoinTime]

Airlinepilot central is saying there are 28 saabs at Eagle. That combined with the 30-35 ERJs is 58-63 aircraft retirements this year. Depending on staffing that might need 600+ fewer pilots by the end of the year. Hard to imagine attrition taking care of that.

 

[PCL_128]

I was wondering when someone was going to say it. :laugh:

Some of us have been saying it for a while.

 

[CopilotDoug]

It seems that AE recognizes the ATR as a fuel efficient airplane...

Anyone at Delta think the same way?

??? Can someone explain this?

Just a year and a half ago they were bringing the SAABs out of the desert because of the money they made (being fuel efficient turboprops and all)

Why take them and the ATR away?

Seems like it's opening a financial wound further

 

[Abernathy]

Yes, I can tell that you immediately realized your lack of competence. That's why you spelled the other word so poorly.



Honestly, I've seen quite a few "their", "there", and "they're" errors, and even some "lose" and "loose" mistakes, so much that they're unfortunately common place. We've even had some "definately" errors (definitely) and some "congradulations" (congratulations). I've done both of them myself.

I've NEVER seen anyone spell "regards" wrong.

Didn't you refer to me as "stupid and you don't really understand what is going on"? Take a hard look in the mirror, junior, and be on "guard".

You forgot my favorite: "Priviledge" !!

 

[Abernathy]

??? Can someone explain this?

Just a year and a half ago they were bringing the SAABs out of the desert because of the money they made (being fuel efficient turboprops and all)

Why take them and the ATR away?

Seems like it's opening a financial wound further

Are those ATRs leased or are they owned by AMR?

 

[N60OSU]

??? Can someone explain this?

Just a year and a half ago they were bringing the SAABs out of the desert because of the money they made (being fuel efficient turboprops and all)

Why take them and the ATR away?

Seems like it's opening a financial wound further

The SAABs were coming out of the desert because it was quicker and cheaper to add capacity that way.

They're not inefficient turboprops, they're inefficient for turboprops based on the limited seating capacity compared to the ATR.

I think the transfer of ATRs to DFW has as much to do with reducing SJU flying in response to AA capacity reductions in the Carribbean. The spare airplanes will replace the SAAB 1 for 1 and allow a given capacity to be operated with fewer A/C and crews.

 

[N60OSU]

Are those ATRs leased or are they owned by AMR?

Owned, I believe.

However, they are all on the Executive certificate. While the pilots/FAs are each on one respective list, the Executive FAs are not trained on Eagl A/C and Eagle FAs are not trained on the ATR. I've heard there are issues with MX from one certificate working on A/C of the other.

 

[ifly4u]

Since we're hijacking this thread I'll throw in my personal favorite: asking for "advise" on a subject. That one really grinds on me for some reason.

 

[Long Time Gone]

By the way, shouldn't you spell it Asa since you spell it Skywest?

Actually, no. Asa (AY-sah) is the first name of the founder of the Coca-Cola Company, Mr. Asa Griggs Candler. The first name "Asa" is of Hebrew origin and was actually the 3rd king of Judah. The company name "ASA" (or A.S.A. if you will, pronounced AY-ES-AY) is made of the first initials of each word in the company's legal name, which is "Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Inc." Unfortunately, the term "ASA" can be commonly confused with numerous other organizations, such as the Autism Society of America, the American Softball Association, the American Society of Anesthesiologists, etc.

Es ist mir scheißegal how you wish to punctuate SkyWest. There, I fixed it. Happy?

How does it feel to be constantly picked on during recess just because you were idiotic enough to open your mouth where it didn't belong? I'm sure it's something you're used to.

Next.

 

[XPOO]

Actually, there is a difference. Allow me to point it out for you.

Skywest Airlines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywest_Airlines

SkyWest Airlines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyWest

But, then again, it's Wikipedia and I don't expect your fragile mind to believe anything that website has to say on anything.

 

[siucavflight]

Good luck to all of my friends who are still at the Beagle. From what I have heard from them is that the 35-40 RJs will be coming from TSA and Chicken Taco first, then the Saabs at Eagle, most seem to think that there will not be any furloughs based on how under staffed they are. Not sure how you came up with hundreds to be furloughed.

 

[CallmeJB]

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