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sleddriver77 said:
Aw, GREAT!! As if furloughs weren't bad enough, now there's even gonna be BEHEADINGS by the Mother Ship? :D

(I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist. Perhaps I should get out more or something.)[/QUOTE


You know what they say about working here, be happy or off with your head.
Would that be considered a freudian slip, or does it have to pertain to sex.

Jettexas, I couldn't agree more.

AA:smash:
 
OK why is everybody at AA and Eagle against Prefbid? And why would it change the prospect of upgrades? The amount of flying will stay the same, the pairings probably won't change much, it's just a more hands-on approach to creating one's own schedule. I think it's the best thing since sliced bread. So, please explain and enlighten me, I'm sure I'm missing something here.
 
Simply put, PBS is a scheduling tool to increase productivity. As we all know, any increase in productivity translates to fewer workers. In this case, the implementation of PBS would probably mean a 5-10% reduction of the pilot workforce. The staffing situation at AA is (or soon will be) very tight and they DO NOT want to have to recall any pilots. It is pretty safe to say that AA wants PBS badly so that they do not have to recall any pilots for the foreseeable future.
 
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Global33 said:
OK why is everybody at AA and Eagle against Prefbid? And why would it change the prospect of upgrades? The amount of flying will stay the same, the pairings probably won't change much, it's just a more hands-on approach to creating one's own schedule. I think it's the best thing since sliced bread. So, please explain and enlighten me, I'm sure I'm missing something here.

Herk driver hit the nail on the nail on the head.

The other aspect is what basterdized version while it morph into. AA had system created in the 1997 contract that is called TTOT. I grievence was file on behalf of APA this past summer because once again it was working as promised. It has been manipulated to suit management.

Pref Bidding in it's pure form and having the constrainsts and variables applied according to the pilots would probably be great. However it will not be that way.

There was a post recently from a UAL pilot on Pref Bidding and how the company srewed them over royally. I have tried a search and can not find it, if I do I will post it.

AA
 
Imagine starting as a new hire at IBM. You can ask for what days you want off, what times you want to work, and what computers you'd prefer to work on. When the beginning of the month comes around, the boss punches a button and the computer spits out what best suits the most senior guy's preferences, and the rest of the people get what will work them the most. All this trickles down to you and you're stuck working the graveyard shift on the weekends.

That's PBS. If you're in the top 10% of the seniority list, it's heaven, but at the cost of everyone else below you.
 
I understand that, but as a junior lineholder now, that pretty much describes my life anyway. Asked for Thanksgiving, weekends, or anything good off. Got none of the above. Just playing devil's advocate.
 
Another aspect is this...With PBS, you will get one week vacation off and one week only. No more being able to bid so that you have days off at either side of your vacation (and having, for example 10 days off in a row instead of 7). Transition times off, same thing. Now you can bid the last 3 days off in a month and the first 3 the next, for example.
 
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I feel your pain. I got 11 denies for October and 0 accepts. 11-0 baby!

However, at least I can bid something that starts late my first day and finishes early my last day, or work a bunch of days at the end of the month and bid a bunch to begin the next month, so that I create another day off due to a 7 day conflict. I can get a week vacation and cap it with a day off at either end for 9 days in a row. I also choose which overnights I want to fly per month, and whether the legs are back to back or with breaks in between for meals. Say goodbye to all of that with PBS.

You're pretty much removing choices from your schedule to allow for tighter scheduling control and less pilot positions.
 

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