eagle flyers

[sim66]

eagle flyers,

does anyone know when all the pilots will be called back and may even start hiring again - had a class date just prior to 9/11 after a furlough and now about to be kicked in the face by aviation again by my current employer. thanks

 

[FEDUPPILOT]

Dont hold your breath with Eagle. Still have 304 pilots on the street. No recalls in sight. Sorry to bring bad news. Try Comair. No light at the end of the tunnel here!

 

[PositiveRate]

Agreed. I would venture a guess of at least a year to get everyone back on line, but I don't even know how realistic that is.

I guess we'll just wait and see. If you have 121 time, Comair will look at you. It's your best bet these days. ASA is supposed to start hiring again too.

Good luck.

 

[Rominato]

how many?

I see that 304 are on furlough... how many though do you think are abandoning those jobs at eagle for opportunities elsewhere? How will that affect the situation at eagle?

 

[AZaviator]

Hey Sim66....

When was your class date at Eagle? I think I may have been in your class.

Just curious.

 

[sim66]

It was the October class.

 

[AZaviator]

Guess we weren't in the same class. I was in an August class.
There was someone in my class who matched your profile though. He was furloughed from Commutair prior to starting Eagle as well.

Best of luck to you.

 

[sim66]

yes many of us were out there looking for jobs at that time. did you guys actually start class and sent home after 9/11 ? if so, did they tell you you had to re-apply/re-interview ?

 

[herb]

quote by Rominato:
"how many though do you think are abandoning those jobs at eagle for opportunities elsewhere?"

If they're smart...all of them. I realize there aren't many jobs out there right now. But this is really not the best place to be right now. Go someplace that respects their employees if at all possible.

-herb

 

[AZaviator]

Sim66, yes, we began class and had just finished ground school when 9/11 happened. I think there was even a newhire class that began after ours. I did have a friend who was scheduled for a September 20th class that never happened. He's hoping to eventually start class at Eagle, but isn't sure about anything. Eagle hasn't been in contact with him since they told him the class wasn't happening. They told him they'd keep his name in a newhire pool, but that was about it and that was back in late September. No news since.

Herb hit the nail on the head. I decided to resign after 9/11. I began class at Eagle in August and really wasn't happy there and decided not to return.

I'm currently a CFI once again, building up more total time and multi time. I'm planning to get my ATP this summer and be, or atleast appear to be more competative whenever the time comes that airlines are hiring again. But I won't be returning to Eagle.

 

[sim66]

sorry to her that. I have been trying to pursue the dream for two and a half years now and have been furloughed from one airline and soon to be two airlines flying turbo props. I have to tell you that no new hire class or line flying in any regional will be your dream job. They all have their faults, I don't care what anyone says. After six months on the line, you will be bitching about something like I did, but when you are on the street after flying in a 121 airline it is no fun and wish to god you had your job back. I will soon be looking once again and although I appreciate the advice, I would take eagle if the opportunity presented itself. Until you have finsished your checkride at United, Delta, SW or American don't think the grass is any greener at the regionals. My 2 cents. Good luck, See ya.

 

[herb]

sim66,
I hear what you're saying. I just said to go somewhere else if possible . I definately understand that jobs are hard to come by right now.
Eagle is limited by the AA ASM Cap until ALL AA pilots are off furlough. With all the TWA pilots now merged into the list...this could be awhile. Don Carty predicted sometime in 2004. I think things just keep getting uglier and uglier at Eagle...and it wasn't that pretty to begin with (pre 9/11). All my friends that have left for other places are much happier at the other places. They say, "WOW, it's amazing how nice it is to be treated like a human!"
All the AMR Unions are having a "Unity March" tomorrow at the AMR shareholders meeting to "inform AMR management that it needs to start cooperating with all of its unions, instead of working against us." according to ALPA.

Enough is Enough.

-herb

 

[sim66]

Herb, I understand your point. I read about that unity march as well. I can't believe mainline will support you guys in that walk. See in my airline, you would never get mainline guys to walk in conjunction with us. Oh well, it's time to pack my bags to go sit my 5 days of reserve. Take care.

 

[Macondo]

Hopefully some good will come out of this unity march. Once you circle the wagons and know whose on your side, it can only get better, right? Does anyone have a news link to see what went down today? We don't get much DFW coverage in SoCal.

 

[herb]

Check out these links:

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/020515/airlines_american_1.html

http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_ge.jsp?news_id=cmt-135b1832&feed=cmt&date=20020515

There were probably around 250-300 people there.
My estimates are 70% Eagle pilots, 25% AA pilots, 5% Flight attendants and CWA (pax service).

I'd say it went pretty well.