Chronic Jetlag
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reality check
Mr. 800Dog:
Once again you are personally attacking your fellow pilots. I admit I'm not the best typist in the world and made a few typos. If this is all you're bringing to the table then you should re-arm yourself with facts rather than personal insults. A sound argument carries weight and merit, a personal insult only exposes your ignorance & hubris. You made it quite obvious that flying an A320 for $120K/year is beneath you and you feel insulted and acrimonious that other pilots are whoring themselves and eroding the profession by flying for less. Ask yourself what your education, flying skills, airmanship is really worth to corporate America if you couldn't fly? How marketable are your skills to corporate America? A college degree no longer guarantees or even assures a good, high paying career. A medical doctor comes out of med school eye balls deep in student loans. Has to work 24 hours straight during their residency...and have you really checked lately what new doctors are really making? Why don't you read last month's article in the Economist magazine about a surgeon's compensation. Personally I feel the airline pilot profession is the most professional, the most noble profession on earth; higher than doctors and lawyers. It brings out the best and...unfortunately the worst in people. In times of peril it tests your strength & character. I have personally seen the best and the worst in pilots; we are our own worst enemy. Pilots eats their youngs.
Do yourself a favor and do a little self inventory and be honest with yourself. I don't like it either but the harsh reality is this: Airline pilots possess a skill that's very much like a trade; we practice our trade and our employers compensate us with $$$. All of us are expendable, no different from one another. We all dream for the "good old days", the days of Pan Am, Eastern, TWA. But those days are long gone and as much as I hate to admit it I must roll with the punches and change with the times. Right now I still feel being an airline pilot is worth it. The day that I feel it's not worth it I'll pack it up and go sell real estate or be a greeter at Wal Mart but I promise you won't find me on this form blaming my fellow pilots for my woes with disparaging remarks!!!
800Dog said:If If? Sounds like high school english to me Cuz? Market will bear? If guys were not willing to fly an airbus for 120k a year we would not be in the predicament we are in. Why do you guys not have the ability to negotiate? I know the answer to that already. Just curious if you have figured it out yet. Believe me Cuz, I have smelled the coffee and no longer want to work in a field where high school graduates earn the same as college and post graduate folks. A college degree is supposed to be worth something but, I guess not in the piloting profession. Enjoy your job. By the way, you have no clue what a good contract is. Do you even have a contract?
Mr. 800Dog:
Once again you are personally attacking your fellow pilots. I admit I'm not the best typist in the world and made a few typos. If this is all you're bringing to the table then you should re-arm yourself with facts rather than personal insults. A sound argument carries weight and merit, a personal insult only exposes your ignorance & hubris. You made it quite obvious that flying an A320 for $120K/year is beneath you and you feel insulted and acrimonious that other pilots are whoring themselves and eroding the profession by flying for less. Ask yourself what your education, flying skills, airmanship is really worth to corporate America if you couldn't fly? How marketable are your skills to corporate America? A college degree no longer guarantees or even assures a good, high paying career. A medical doctor comes out of med school eye balls deep in student loans. Has to work 24 hours straight during their residency...and have you really checked lately what new doctors are really making? Why don't you read last month's article in the Economist magazine about a surgeon's compensation. Personally I feel the airline pilot profession is the most professional, the most noble profession on earth; higher than doctors and lawyers. It brings out the best and...unfortunately the worst in people. In times of peril it tests your strength & character. I have personally seen the best and the worst in pilots; we are our own worst enemy. Pilots eats their youngs.
Do yourself a favor and do a little self inventory and be honest with yourself. I don't like it either but the harsh reality is this: Airline pilots possess a skill that's very much like a trade; we practice our trade and our employers compensate us with $$$. All of us are expendable, no different from one another. We all dream for the "good old days", the days of Pan Am, Eastern, TWA. But those days are long gone and as much as I hate to admit it I must roll with the punches and change with the times. Right now I still feel being an airline pilot is worth it. The day that I feel it's not worth it I'll pack it up and go sell real estate or be a greeter at Wal Mart but I promise you won't find me on this form blaming my fellow pilots for my woes with disparaging remarks!!!