Down With The Major Ego!

[outtahere]

For some time now there have been several legacy pilots on here spouting off at the mouth and generally putting down the regional pilots. The most notable of these is the broken record General Lee, but others as well. In my opinion all that is wrong with this industry right now can be directly linked to these dicks and the huge ego that they carry around. Had this ego not been as prevalant as it is perhaps the majors would'nt be fighting to keep flying. Now they have pay rates lower than regionals, and yet the ego is still there. Personally if I never move on to a major, no big deal. However, no matter where I am I will fight for higher pay and more equipment, no matter what size that equipment is. If the major pilots want my support to help them keep their job, to late; I was there once, I was young and stupid thinking more, and bigger airplanes here were a bad thing. Not anymore, as I see it I am going to do whats best for me and my family in my current situation, and place of employment. If that means someone the likes of General Lee loses his job all the better, as no one deserves a rake over the coals more than this A$$. Let me reiterate however I won't do this job for less money nor will I willingly participate in the undercutting of another pilot groups contract for growth, or even survival, we are already underpaid. Hopefully my fellow pilots have the gumption to hold the line. If after improving our contract we still grow and Delta shrinks, so be it. Maybe less ego and more support from ALPA national when a contract is being negotiated at the regional is the answer, but who knows. All I know is I am sick of caring whether or not we are taking flying from the majors.

 

[General Lee]

For some time now there have been several legacy pilots on here spouting off at the mouth and generally putting down the regional pilots. The most notable of these is the broken record General Lee, but others as well. In my opinion all that is wrong with this industry right now can be directly linked to these dicks and the huge ego that they carry around. Had this ego not been as prevalant as it is perhaps the majors would'nt be fighting to keep flying. Now they have pay rates lower than regionals, and yet the ego is still there. Personally if I never move on to a major, no big deal. However, no matter where I am I will fight for higher pay and more equipment, no matter what size that equipment is. If the major pilots want my support to help them keep their job, to late; I was there once, I was young and stupid thinking more, and bigger airplanes here were a bad thing. Not anymore, as I see it I am going to do whats best for me and my family in my current situation, and place of employment. If that means someone the likes of General Lee loses his job all the better, as no one deserves a rake over the coals more than this A$$. Let me reiterate however I won't do this job for less money nor will I willingly participate in the undercutting of another pilot groups contract for growth, or even survival, we are already underpaid. Hopefully my fellow pilots have the gumption to hold the line. If after improving our contract we still grow and Delta shrinks, so be it. Maybe less ego and more support from ALPA national when a contract is being negotiated at the regional is the answer, but who knows. All I know is I am sick of caring whether or not we are taking flying from the majors.

Broken record? You just CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. I am not "putting down Regional pilots"--rather I am telling you what is wrong with your side of the industry and what you really SHOULDN'T be wishing for. Guys like Jerry Atkin and Brian LeBreque are jumping up and down and high fiving eachother when they read the krap you spout off on on boards like this. Narrow minded? Yes, YES YOU ARE. We will flush YOUR job down the toilet before we GIVE you any larger RJs. Deal with it. You might want to prepare for the worst coming up here. Thank gawd my wife has a great job. I think I will open up a Chippendales franchise.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

We will flush YOUR job down the toilet before we GIVE you any larger RJs.

That's the EXACT attitude that this thread is addressing!

YOU can't give me anything. YOU don't wear the pants anymore. YOU have been cut down to size. Welcome to chitty work rules, no food, cut benefits, low morale. No more gangster tactics with upstart airlines....they now run the show and make a profit at fares which will put you and your attitude OUT OF BUSINESS! YOU are just a regional pilot now.

 

[outtahere]

First of all, you see what I mean, you are an a$$. Secondly, you can 51% us to death and yet we all know Delta won't strike. If they do great, you should stand up for what you want, but we will do the same, even if it means us flushing your job down the toilet.

 

[General Lee]

That's the EXACT attitude that this thread is addressing!

YOU can't give me anything. YOU don't wear the pants anymore. YOU have been cut down to size. Welcome to chitty work rules, no food, cut benefits, low morale. No more gangster tactics with upstart airlines....they now run the show and make a profit at fares which will put you and your attitude OUT OF BUSINESS! YOU are just a regional pilot now.

WRONG. We control your destiny. IF we say NO to the company---you and I will go away. If they say YES, you will get what WE say. That is good, because maybe more of you COULD come over here and actually start a career with an airline that can offer upward movement. IF you think that we will always stay in the rut we are in, then you are mistaken. I will post an article that states the Global industry should recover and could make $7.2 BILLION in 2007(US Airlines cutting their losses in HALF--getting better). Will our contract always suk? Probably not. Will the regional level ever get higher? Probably not. You should WANT to move up. We DO wear the pants, and you need to understand that. You are our feed, and we control the scope, or this place goes away. And, I am NOT a regional pilot---since I have the ability to fly GLOBALLY--at better pay than your highest paid pilot. Chitty Work rules? I work 3 days a week, often flying one leg a day myself. No Food? I got a first class meal on my last leg to the Carribean last week. My last 4 day had an allnighter and I got a good sandwich. You had better HOPE we get an agreement that keeps our SCOPE, or you will be out of a job too. Is that cocky? It is the truth.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

UPDATE 2-Airline group sees $7.2 bln sector profit in 2007
Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:32 PM ET
(Adds crude oil price forecast)
NEW YORK, March 22 (Reuters) - The International Air Transport Association said on Wednesday it expects the industry to post a larger profit in 2007 than it previously anticipated as demand grows and carriers benefit from leaner, more efficient operations.


The global airlines body raised its 2007 forecast for global industry profit -- the first in six years -- to $7.2 billion from $6.2 billion previously, Chief Executive Giovanni Bisignani said at an industry event in New York.
IATA cut its forecast of the global industry's losses in 2006 by half to $2.2 billion. U.S. carriers are expected to lose $5.4 billion in 2006, half the losses they posted in 2005. The projections assume crude oil to cost $52 a barrel in 2007 and $57 a barrel in 2006.
But Bisignani warned against being too optimistic, as the returns would still be small compared with the size of the industry, and adverse events -- such as a bird flu pandemic among humans and another surge in fuel prices -- could again throw airlines off track.
"There are some wild cards beyond our control -- avian flu and security among them," Bisignani said. "If we are looking for a common villain, it is fuel."
Airlines have been reeling under high fuel prices but have been cutting costs and improving efficiencies with the help of better aircraft and operational changes. They have also seen traffic improve over the last couple of years as economies recover and more people travel.
The association, which represents 265 airlines accounting for 94 percent of international traffic, said a recent survey of airline chief financial officers found that more than two-thirds of the executives polled expected profitability to increase over the next year.
"I believe there is a new optimism in the industry," Bisignani said.
Bisignani said expectations have also risen because things are changing for the better in the United States -- where the industry has seen major airlines such as Delta Air Lines Inc. (DALRQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) and Northwest Airlines Corp. (NWACQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) go bankrupt -- as carriers cut costs and reduce capacity.
However, there are fears of a build-up in capacity internationally following record aircraft orders and as U.S. carriers shift their focus to more profitable foreign routes.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[outtahere]

WRONG. We control your destiny. IF we say NO to the company---you and I will go away. If they say YES, you will get what WE say. That is good, because maybe more of you COULD come over here and actually start a career with an airline that can offer upward movement. IF you think that we will always stay in the rut we are in, then you are mistaken. I will post an article that states the industry should recover and could make $7.2 BILLION in 2007. Will our contract always suk? Probably not. Will the regional level ever get higher? Probably not. You should WANT to move up. We DO wear the pants, and you need to understand that. You are our feed, and we control the scope, or this place goes away. And, I am NOT a regional pilot---since I have the ability to fly GLOBALLY--at better pay than your highest paid pilot. Chitty Work rules? I work 3 days a week, often flying one leg a day myself. No Food? I got a first class meal on my last leg to the Carribean last week. My last 4 day had an allnighter and I got a good sandwich. You had better HOPE we get an agreement that keeps our SCOPE, or you will be out of a job too. Is that cocky? It is the truth.

Bye Bye--General Lee

So if we take all of your domestic flying and you wear the pants, is that the same as us pulling your pants down and spanking your little snot nosed a$$?

 

[General Lee]

First of all, you see what I mean, you are an a$$. Secondly, you can 51% us to death and yet we all know Delta won't strike. If they do great, you should stand up for what you want, but we will do the same, even if it means us flushing your job down the toilet.

How are you going to flush our jobs down the toilet? JA won't allow his investment to do that. And, he will take your planes and give them to SkyWest guys, who aren't ALPA. What a mess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

So if we take all of your domestic flying and you wear the pants, is that the same as us pulling your pants down and spanking your little snot nosed a$$?

Tell me again how you would TAKE all of the Domestic flying? It won't happen. We really won't allow it. Really. The major thing you are missing here is that we don't have the same CARROT NW had--the pension. We lost all of our senior guys, except 250 who are older than 55, and that leaves us with more options. We now value SCOPE more than pensions--since they already said it is "VERY LIKELY" gone. NW didn't have that said to them. But, your flying looks like it is slowly being replaced until you give in. Sad.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

You had better HOPE we get an agreement that keeps our SCOPE, or you will be out of a job too. Is that cocky? It is the truth

NOPE. Here's the truth:

You and your attitude are the reason Delta is so unprofitable. EVEN IF your pay was the same as AirTran or Jetblue, Delta would still go out of business, since the WHOLE COMPANY is so inefficient, dysfunctional, and nasty to customers.

So, your salary has to COMPENSATE for Delta's lack of productivity. It will be LOWER.

Customers are no longer stupid enough to buy the "Good Goes Around" B.S.,or whatever meaningless crap Madison Ave dreams up to try to get folks to ignore the higher price for worse service which is what Delta is.

After this new contract gets rammed down your snotty throat, you will either shut up and fly, or assemble your resume and send it to Southwest (and shell out $8,000 for a 737 type-rating) in order to have a job with upward mobility.

You have no choice. You ain't calling the shots here.

 

[pilotyip]

name calling again

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

But, your flying looks like it is slowly being replaced until you give in. Sad.

Actually, our situation is better:

Our flying might be subject to REVERSIBLE reductions by management.

Your flying is being reduced by IRREVERSIBLE reductions by customers, who are leaving and not coming back!

 

[okcplt]

All I know is I am sick of caring whether or not we are taking flying from the majors.

I would have flown charter or cargo or sold vacuum cleaners before I would have taken a regional job.

Guys who apply for and take regional jobs know and accept that they will be lil b1tches and undermining the industry walking thru the front door on the first day. How can they not be? You can't afford to live on the starting wage so why take the job?

And now your angry that the majors are trying to take the flying back?

YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES WHO SOLD OUT ORIGINALLY, taking a regional job at regional pay. And yes major guys will now be flying for regional rates until we can get the flying back and repair the damage of flying for nothing because you reside in your parents basement. Thanks for ruining a once great profession.

You make me want to throw-up.

 

[scopeCMRandASA]

NOPE. Here's the truth:

You and your attitude are the reason Delta is so unprofitable. EVEN IF your pay was the same as AirTran or Jetblue, Delta would still go out of business, since the WHOLE COMPANY is so inefficient, dysfunctional, and nasty to customers.

So, your salary has to COMPENSATE for Delta's lack of productivity. It will be LOWER.

Customers are no longer stupid enough to buy the "Good Goes Around" B.S.,or whatever meaningless crap Madison Ave dreams up to try to get folks to ignore the higher price for worse service which is what Delta is.

After this new contract gets rammed down your snotty throat, you will either shut up and fly, or assemble your resume and send it to Southwest (and shell out $8,000 for a 737 type-rating) in order to have a job with upward mobility.

You have no choice. You ain't calling the shots here.

Yeah, everyone else has the ego. I think somebody has a little pent up jealousy and anger. Get some therapy, man. Incidentally, I have now been in both sets of shoes, major and regional. By far, the worst egos were in the regionals. Particularly the RJ captains. Hate to poo in your cheerios, but it's the truth.

Glad to be gone.

 

[D'Angelo]

Thats what im talkin about baby! Im all for growth. More growth = better QOL and more pay. I would rather see larger planes here than anywhere else. I don't care what happens at the "major" level anymore. I have no desire to start all over and roll the dice somewhere else. BTW it isn't YOUR flying its DELTAs flying and in the end they can give it to who they want. Sure you can stand up and spout off all you want but in the end you have 2 choices. #1 adapt and change with the industry. Why would it make sense to bring another type onto property? I thought mgmt wanted to have as few types as possible. If you get a CL-705 or EMB-190 on the property that just makes you more expensive and even less competitive. Your other choice is to strike like retards, liquiate the company and someone else will scoop up whats left in bankruptcy court. The feed is already in place and won't go away. RJs absolutely are not profitable by themselves, however majors always need some type of feed. Either way the larger planes at regionals are not going away. Im glad to see people are no longer drinking the koolaid on this subject. ALPA and the Legacy pilots don't give 2 $hits about us regional pilots. Why should we care what happens to them. I refuse to buy the if it goes to mainline its automaticall better crap. BS. You guys had your chance but you didn't want to fly the "barbie" jet. I respect your freedom of choice but now you have to live with that decision. You can't scream for it back now. If you think you were really wronged IMPEACH THOSE ALPA SOBS. You know the link, you know how to do it. Start that decertification drive now. Sorry I am not willing to pass up a chance to get more growth and more equipment here at comair. I honestly only care what happens here. I could care less what happens anywhere else. You guys wanted a free for all well you have got it. Its every man for himself and its a mad mad mad mad world out there.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

Actually, our situation is better:

Your flying is being reduced by IRREVERSIBLE reductions by customers, who are leaving and not coming back!

Are you saying that shifting more flying and larger planes to the regionals would provide the customer with better service??? Please explain how that would work.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

The seniority system has us in a bind more than anything else. If I could strike and go to another job with comparable pay...... Pilots have to vote for their livelyhood. The problem is you can't sell tickets at a price below cost to hold onto market share. Why this is not illegal, is beyond me.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Actually, our situation is better:

Our flying might be subject to REVERSIBLE reductions by management.

Your flying is being reduced by IRREVERSIBLE reductions by customers, who are leaving and not coming back!

You must be high.

Their customers are also your cutomers. No customers for Delta, none for you.

 

[outtahere]

I would have flown charter or cargo or sold vacuum cleaners before I would have taken a regional job.

Guys who apply for and take regional jobs know and accept that they will be lil b1tches and undermining the industry walking thru the front door on the first day. How can they not be? You can't afford to live on the starting wage so why take the job?

And now your angry that the majors are trying to take the flying back?

YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES WHO SOLD OUT ORIGINALLY, taking a regional job at regional pay. And yes major guys will now be flying for regional rates until we can get the flying back and repair the damage of flying for nothing because you reside in your parents basement. Thanks for ruining a once great profession.

You make me want to throw-up.

First of all I am married with three kids and a mortgage and a wife that is a full time student. Second, I owned a flight school/ charter company prior to 9/11 and only went to the airlines because I needed a schedule I could depend on. Third there would be no problem in the airline industry had ALPA and the legacy pilots they love not been so put off at the idea of flying a little jet. Now that you are shrinking and you have a possible furlough on the horizon we are the scurge for taking "your" flying when you did'nt want it before. So have you turned in your ballot for congress cause you guys are good at the doublespeak.
P.S. Does general lee just cut and paste? All his posts say the same thing.
P.S.S. I also at one time sold vacuum cleaners, though I'd rather not talk about it.

 

[JumpCaptain]

Serious question

If the major pilots want my support to help them keep their job, too late; ...If that means someone the likes of General Lee loses his job all the better....

...Let me reiterate however I won't do this job for less money nor will I willingly participate in the undercutting of another pilot groups contract for growth, or even survival, we are already underpaid.

Aren't you contradicting yourself here?

Certainly you view the guys at the majors ("the likes of General Lee") as another pilot group?

My 2 cents is that the real cause of this problem began when the majors got lax with their scope. Take a kid right out of high school and stick him behind the wheel of a 90 passenger jet and he'd probably do it for free. In fact, he'll pay you just to let him do it cuz it's so cool!!

No sir. I'm a firm believer that anything more than 35 passangers should be at the majors. Cus once a guy's been in the biz for a while he'll be say'n, "show me the money!".

 

[outtahere]

Aren't you contradicting yourself here?

Certainly you view the guys at the majors ("the likes of General Lee") as another pilot group?

My 2 cents is that the real cause of this problem began when the majors got lax with their scope. Take a kid right out of high school and stick him behind the wheel of a 90 passenger jet and he'd probably do it for free. In fact, he'll pay you just to let him do it cuz it's so cool!!

No sir. I'm a firm believer that anything more than 35 passangers should be at the majors. Cus once a guy's been in the biz for a while he'll be say'n, "show me the money!".

No I am not contradiciting myself. By this statement I was referring to other regionals, by comparison the only way to undercut mainline is if we are bidding for the same flying, say 90 seaters, and we are not. However, if a bid for this flying required us to lowball a Delta rate already set I would not be in favor of it. If they want the flying bad enough to work for less than our 70 rates, let them have it. Same with our current situation with Skywest, I won't vote for consessions for growth when the company I work for is raking in record profits. If they then stagnate our growth or start to shrink us our costs go way up and thus costs them more in the long run than the raise would have. Oh by the way if your for everything over 35 seats being at mainline and you work for a regional, then I guess you think the guy at mainlines job is more important than your own and you are willing to go to the unemployment line for him.

 

[TheMissingLink]

Want to see an ego? Just wait till the regionals start flying 737/A320 size equipment!

 

[pgcfii2002]

I'll bring the popcorn....you bring the beer.

 

[DH200]

First of all I am married with three kids and a mortgage and a wife that is a full time student. Second, I owned a flight school/ charter company prior to 9/11 and only went to the airlines because I needed a schedule I could depend on. Third there would be no problem in the airline industry had ALPA and the legacy pilots they love not been so put off at the idea of flying a little jet. Now that you are shrinking and you have a possible furlough on the horizon we are the scurge for taking "your" flying when you did'nt want it before. So have you turned in your ballot for congress cause you guys are good at the doublespeak.
P.S. Does general lee just cut and paste? All his posts say the same thing.
P.S.S. I also at one time sold vacuum cleaners, though I'd rather not talk about it.

First of all I am married with three kids and a mortgage and a wife that is a full time student. Second, I owned a flight school/ charter company prior to 9/11 and only went to the airlines because I needed a schedule I could depend on. Third there would be no problem in the airline industry had ALPA and the legacy pilots they love not been so put off at the idea of flying a little jet. Now that you are shrinking and you have a possible furlough on the horizon we are the scurge for taking "your" flying when you did'nt want it before. So have you turned in your ballot for congress cause you guys are good at the doublespeak.
P.S. Does general lee just cut and paste? All his posts say the same thing.
P.S.S. I also at one time sold vacuum cleaners, though I'd rather not talk about it.

Cathy Le.......I mean General Lee probably never really WORKED for a living before becoming ...whatever he has..........become?
Nothing wrong with the the regionals except pay and respect. Five day trips with six legs per day only make you appreciate life in the majors.I'll ALWAYS respect regional guys because I'll never forget where I came from.
It's funny how humble the "PROFESSIONALS" are when they are begging for a ride home on a...........gasp...regional.

 

[JumpCaptain]

Oh by the way, if your for everything over 35 seats being at mainline and you work for a regional, then I guess you think the guy at mainlines job is more important than your own and you are willing to go to the unemployment line for him.

No I wouldn't.

You're assumption is fair enough, but I'm not saying we would realistically want to do that at this point. What I mean is that if from the beginning the scope was set at say 35 seats, many of us would probably be at the majors by now.

Albeit still flying the same 50-90 passenger airplanes but certainly at higher pay with the potential to upgrade to the 777 someday.

Thoughts?

 

[135fr8r]

I'm sick of the egos on both sides, yet most cocky, stuck-up, arrogant pilots I have come across have been regional pilots. There are most definitely a-holes on both sides of the fence, but I have seen it

The funniest story I have heard came from a co-worker who when flying part 135 freight, was trying to jumpseat on a certain ERJ operator. The captain asked him about the company, and my co-worker explained that we were freight haulers. The cocky captain then said, "Oh, so you are one of those f**ks 20,000 ft. below me in a prop wishing you had my job huh?" This guy replied, "no, I'm in a Learjet 10,000 ft. above you making more as an F/O than you are as a Captain." The a-hole captain immediately yelled "get off of my f***ing airplane." I still laugh about it until this day.

As far as the pay issues go, I honestly don't believe any pilot is worth 350k per year, but yet you won't find me in the right seat of a regional jet making 20k per year, nor will you find me in the left seat for 65k. I got into this field because I have a passion for flying, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna whore myself out in order to fly a jet with an airline paint scheme on it.

Regional Pilot: Welcome to my place.

Chic from bar: Which room is yours?

Regional Pilot: To the left.

Chic from bar: Why are there 2 beds in there?

Regional Pilot: Oh that one belongs to one of my rommies.

Chic from bar: One of them? How many do you have?

Regional Pilot: I have six.

Chic from bar: I thought you said you were an airline pilot?

Regional Pilot: Oh I am.

Regional Pilot: Where are you going? Really, I'm not lying!!!

Regional Pilot: Wait!!! Come baaaaack!!!!!!! See, here's my uniform shirt!!

Chic from bar: (As she walks out) My brother works at Auto Zone, they wear the same shirt at work!!!

 

[okcplt]

P.S. Does general lee just cut and paste? All his posts say the same thing.
P.S.S. I also at one time sold vacuum cleaners, though I'd rather not talk about it.

I am not General Lee. I am furloughed Northwest.

I am in Oklahoma, pouring concrete 5 days a week until the phone rings to come back.

 

[Camembert]

The seniority system has us in a bind more than anything else. If I could strike and go to another job with comparable pay...... Pilots have to vote for their livelyhood. The problem is you can't sell tickets at a price below cost to hold onto market share. Why this is not illegal, is beyond me.

In France it is illegal. You will never see this happening here. That is why France is slowly becoming the leader of the industry and Air France is an outstanding company to work for. All of you should seriously consider a career at Air France. If you like the Bus, we have them all. If you're a Boeing guy, we have 737, 767, 777 and 747. Our crew meals are better than first class meals and General Lee would be a happy camper chilling in one of our 767. Plus our crew scheduling will acomodate you and if you live in the states your trips can start in the states. Air France will be hiring for quite some time and when cabotage becomes legal we will take over Delta's flying after the General and his buddies strike and run it out of business.

Camembert

 

[737 Pylt]

In France it is illegal. You will never see this happening here. That is why France is slowly becoming the leader of the industry and Air France is an outstanding company to work for. All of you should seriously consider a career at Air France. If you like the Bus, we have them all. If you're a Boeing guy, we have 737, 767, 777 and 747. Our crew meals are better than first class meals and General Lee would be a happy camper chilling in one of our 767. Plus our crew scheduling will acomodate you and if you live in the states your trips can start in the states. Air France will be hiring for quite some time and when cabotage becomes legal we will take over Delta's flying after the General and his buddies strike and run it out of business.

Camembert

Oh brother, you again...I thought the french were too busy surrendering. I hear nothing spells lovin like marryin your cousin there in ole' Parri?!
BTW, hows the a-380 doing?? You frogs learn anything from the scare bus mistakes of the past?!
737
If it ain't a BOEING, I ain't going!

Thats what im talkin about baby! Im all for growth. More growth = better QOL and more pay. I would rather see larger planes here than anywhere else. I don't care what happens at the "major" level anymore. I have no desire to start all over and roll the dice somewhere else.

That's because you can't get hired anywhere else!

BTW it isn't YOUR flying its DELTAs flying and in the end they can give it to who they want. Sure you can stand up and spout off all you want but in the end you have 2 choices. #1 adapt and change with the industry. Why would it make sense to bring another type onto property?

Before, I thought you were just niave, now it shows you are just plain old STUPID!
ALL flying done under the DL code is subject to the DAL pilots' PWA.....PERIOD! Got that!

I thought mgmt wanted to have as few types as possible. If you get a CL-705 or EMB-190 on the property that just makes you more expensive and even less competitive. Your other choice is to strike like retards, liquiate the company and someone else will scoop up whats left in bankruptcy court. The feed is already in place and won't go away. RJs absolutely are not profitable by themselves, however majors always need some type of feed.

Tell that to Southwest and Airtran. Both successful without rj's!

Either way the larger planes at regionals are not going away. Im glad to see people are no longer drinking the koolaid on this subject. ALPA and the Legacy pilots don't give 2 $hits about us regional pilots.

Wrong, we just don't give 2 $hits about morons like you, we actually like regional pilots, because now that's where most of us came from!

Why should we care what happens to them. I refuse to buy the if it goes to mainline its automaticall better crap. BS. You guys had your chance but you didn't want to fly the "barbie" jet. I respect your freedom of choice but now you have to live with that decision. You can't scream for it back now. If you think you were really wronged IMPEACH THOSE ALPA SOBS.

Man, I can't wait until you're out of work and starving on food stamps.

You know the link, you know how to do it. Start that decertification drive now. Sorry I am not willing to pass up a chance to get more growth and more equipment here at comair. I honestly only care what happens here. I could care less what happens anywhere else. You guys wanted a free for all well you have got it. Its every man for himself and its a mad mad mad mad world out there.

Hey retard....I got news for you, if DL goes CHP 7, CMR goes right along with it. If you took your head out of your hiney long enough to realize that........Oh what's the use, this kid is too much of a moron!
Its not regional pilots that are the problem, its pissheads like you!
737
How's that decertification drive goin?

 

[Camembert]

Oh brother, you again...I thought the french were too busy surrendering. I hear nothing spells lovin like marryin your cousin there in ole' Parri?!
BTW, hows the a-380 doing?? You frogs learn anything from the scare bus mistakes of the past?!
737
If it ain't a BOEING, I ain't going!

We marry women with a different family name. Paris isn't in Alabama.

It doesn't bother me that you prefer Boeings. Air France flies both fleet to accomodate everyone's preferences. The 380 will prove to be an outstanding product for its market. And Air France is still better than Delta.

Camembert