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Dude people said "DONT WORK AT GOJETS!" and people still did it. You know there's always going to be a buuuuuuuuuuuuunch of people that cant wait to get the call back from CHQ.


CHQ is not even remotely close to Go JET - No comparison.

What they did will not be forgiven in this industry.
 
CHQ is not even remotely close to Go JET - No comparison.

What they did will not be forgiven in this industry.

Oh boy here come the waterworks....wah wah wah wah :crying:
 
Guess what...ya'll will negotiate for a year or so, bitch and moan, maaaaaaaaaaaybe strike but i doubt anybody will show up and then settle for whatever the hell your shi*&y regional originally proposed. Keep that union strong fellas...ya'll are really making a change!
 
CHQ is not even remotely close to Go JET - No comparison.

What they did will not be forgiven in this industry.


What did Go Jet do, vote in a contract with low wages and undercut the industry, well that would make me mad too if I worked at CHQ you guys probaly thought you were the best at doing that.
 
What did Go Jet do, vote in a contract with low wages and undercut the industry, well that would make me mad too if I worked at CHQ you guys probaly thought you were the best at doing that.

I seriously doubt that Chautauqua is the lowest bidder, sometimes its about a quality product. Only companies like United sell their soul for the cheapest s*** they can get, thats why the top 5 at United are splitting millions in bonuses as we speak.
 
when exactly is the contract up? i hope there is a pay raise in the near future.... i make more as a 1st year turboprop driver than any of the jets at republic! can you turn down chq or sa classes to get into republic??

And then all of the Chautauqua FOs will make more than you their second year. They will more than likely upgrade before you too, which makes first year pay a moot point. I'm not trying to hate on you, because I worked at Piedmont as well, but there is more to the big picture than first year pay. I'm not saying that I agree with the low wages that any of the regionals pay, but I wasn't willing to sit around at Piedmont waiting to upgrade for six years even if their first year pay is better than some of the other places. The contract is up in October, but negotiations are allowed to start in April. People have turned down class dates on one certificate to wait for another, but they say you may not receive another call if you turn down the first offer. I would guess that with the shortage of pilots at this company, they will give you what you want though.
 
And then all of the Chautauqua FOs will make more than you their second year. They will more than likely upgrade before you too, which makes first year pay a moot point. I'm not trying to hate on you, because I worked at Piedmont as well, but there is more to the big picture than first year pay. I'm not saying that I agree with the low wages that any of the regionals pay, but I wasn't willing to sit around at Piedmont waiting to upgrade for six years even if their first year pay is better than some of the other places. The contract is up in October, but negotiations are allowed to start in April. People have turned down class dates on one certificate to wait for another, but they say you may not receive another call if you turn down the first offer. I would guess that with the shortage of pilots at this company, they will give you what you want though.

And not trying to hate on you, but what happens when the growth stops? What about the FO's then?
 
And not trying to hate on you, but what happens when the growth stops? What about the FO's then?

i dont think the growth will stop any time soon, the continental flying will keep everyone busy for a while, and once the airline is better staffed, i wouldnt be surpised to see a little more delta flying, and when TSA, GoJet and mesa go under. Everyones going to pick up some United Flying. And who will get TSAs american connection flying, i think CHQ might be in a good postion for some STL growth. The company is hiring right now for their current understaffed situation, attrition and growth, so most FOs that are just coming online are in a pretty good spot. But it is the airline industry and everything can change in a minute. Just my 2 cents
 
The company management sent out a letter to pilots stating they will not respect pilot seniority when it comes to upgrade .

They called me today for an interview... I told them I was already flying MD-11 and would only consider the job if I could hold left seat on the 170 inside of 6 months.. they told me that it would be more like 2 years.. so I don't think they're bypassing anyone. But then I only am going by what one chick in HR told me.
 
And not trying to hate on you, but what happens when the growth stops? What about the FO's then?

If you get stuck as an FO at Chautauqua, you're still going to make more in the long run than being stuck as an FO at Piedmont. You're right, who knows when the growth will end? It's all a crapshoot.
 
Funny, CAL mainly brought CHQ in for 2 reason. One of them is the fact that they were a low bidder then XJET on flying the 69 airplanes. Number two was to protect CAL in the event another COMAIR incident occured. They did not want to end up like DAL did during CMR's strike. Looking at it now, CAL has admitted to losing more money on the CHQ flying then they had anticipated. It has been 3 months since CHQ started flying for them........awesome job. Also, CAL is a little upset about having United color ERJ's flying around as Continental Express, but whatever a$$ in the seat right.

The second point about CHQ being a safety net in case XJT went on strike has backfired on CAL too. Now it looks like XJT will be protecting CAL when CHQ/RAH/SA cant figure how to have a 2 crew required airplane fly with only 1 crew memeber. Damn FAA and required crew nonsense.

It is funny how Mr. Kellner (CAL) and Mr. Bedford (RAH) have demonstrated their true nact for looking at the hand infront of their face, instead of at the fist coming from way out there. Quarter by quarter instead of year over year, right? They truely are showing there keen ability to come up with new ideas on how to re-invent the wheel. At least they can count the beans in their golden parachutte should it become necessary.

Nothing againt RAH pilots here, but I hope you all find a solution to your problems, and that it is a good one. The last thing we need is another band-aid contract. Good luck.
 
Dude people said "DONT WORK AT GOJETS!" and people still did it. You know there's always going to be a buuuuuuuuuuuuunch of people that cant wait to get the call back from CHQ.

About 100-150 pilots out of Thousands of potential pilots over at GoJets - in my book a BUUUUUUNCH of pilots that is not.

Maybe 1% screwed their careers.
 
Funny, CAL mainly brought CHQ in for 2 reason. One of them is the fact that they were a low bidder then XJET on flying the 69 airplanes. quote]


still doesnt mean that CHQ was the lowest bidder. it just means they were lower than expressjet.


I know, thats why I said they were "a lower bidder then XJET," not the lowest bidder. Mesa's bid I am sure was lower, but J.O. has history with COEX and CAL made a smart decision not to even look at MESA's offer.
 
Funny, CAL mainly brought CHQ in for 2 reason. One of them is the fact that they were a low bidder then XJET on flying the 69 airplanes. Number two was to protect CAL in the event another COMAIR incident occured. They did not want to end up like DAL did during CMR's strike. Looking at it now, CAL has admitted to losing more money on the CHQ flying then they had anticipated. It has been 3 months since CHQ started flying for them........awesome job. Also, CAL is a little upset about having United color ERJ's flying around as Continental Express, but whatever a$$ in the seat right.

The second point about CHQ being a safety net in case XJT went on strike has backfired on CAL too. Now it looks like XJT will be protecting CAL when CHQ/RAH/SA cant figure how to have a 2 crew required airplane fly with only 1 crew memeber. dang FAA and required crew nonsense.

It is funny how Mr. Kellner (CAL) and Mr. Bedford (RAH) have demonstrated their true nact for looking at the hand infront of their face, instead of at the fist coming from way out there. Quarter by quarter instead of year over year, right? They truely are showing there keen ability to come up with new ideas on how to re-invent the wheel. At least they can count the beans in their golden parachutte should it become necessary.

Nothing againt RAH pilots here, but I hope you all find a solution to your problems, and that it is a good one. The last thing we need is another band-aid contract. Good luck.

What is even more interesting is what will happen when the XJet branded flying collapses and they reenter negotiations with CO to take those aircraft back. Will CO dump Republic? Will they force XJet into bankruptcy by saying no? If they do than Xjet can reject, or threaten to reject, the leases on all a/c back to CO, thus threatening CO with bankruptcy. Oh what a mess is waiting for everyone, probably in less than a year.
 
Remember you guys need to set the bar as the only operator of the 170 in the US.

I'm suprised that you would say this seeing as how you apparantly worked for Mesaba (as did I). The FO pay rates at Mesaba were very comparable if not inferior to that of the 170 - (a smaller airplane). I never heard anyone bashing XJ for their pay rates - until the last year or so with all the shannanigans. If you're only going to compare FO pay rates, I would call it a wash. A regional is a regional - with few exceptions. RAH is not the exception! The BYPASS will not fly!
 
What is even more interesting is what will happen when the XJet branded flying collapses and they reenter negotiations with CO to take those aircraft back. Will CO dump Republic? Will they force XJet into bankruptcy by saying no? If they do than Xjet can reject, or threaten to reject, the leases on all a/c back to CO, thus threatening CO with bankruptcy. Oh what a mess is waiting for everyone, probably in less than a year.

Not gonna happen mainly because the next group of planes if taken out cant be taken till 2009. Secondly the next group of planes if taken out will not be XRs or LRs. CAL hosed themselves with that and wont do it again. The next group would be the ERs and 135's if any. In that case we may or may not keep those aircraft so then CAL is stuck with the crappy planes. Lots of variables will come into play. Who knows. As far as the branded flying goes, all we have to do is break even with that flying and we will still be making a profit. Still have 205 airplanes with CAL guaranteed income and the DAL deal which is only 10 planes for now but Could grow in the future especially if we show them how good of a job we can do. Again I say Who knows? Just my 2 pennies worth.
 

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