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Can't believe I'm going to say this, but on behalf of one of DAL's many business traveler I just wanted to say THANK YOU DELTA & AA for having business class in the US domestic market. Well worth the extra $$. Of course, we live in a place where DAL rules the market. For personal travel, we (wife and I) enjoyed Air Tran with it's 1st/Biz class but now with the merger, we can kiss that goodbye. AT's Biz/1st class was a good product and sold well. Gonna miss it but DAL is now my company's and spouse's company choice for business travel and Corporate Crew Deadheading.


Airtran had a pretty good 1st class (I jumpsat on it a few times), with the XM radio and nice flight attendants. You're right, that will be going away. I hope you do like the Delta 1st and business class, on most of the planes there is Wifi, and many of the 757s and 738s have TVs with dish network, which helps the time go by. The food up front is getting better, and I think inflight is working on getting a great product out there. Mergers take awhile to get everything the same. Frequent travellers deserve the perks, and I think more is on the way. Thanks for the comments.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Maybe he hates RJs? I certainly buy around them when I have a choice.

Surely you are mistaken....everyone knows that no matter where you fly on Delta, you will always be in First Class on a 777, with Genital Lee Davis in Command. Of course it will be his normal schedule of 2 on, 64 off and he will have his own personal flight attendant for the cockpit.....a valet will park his Maserati for him so he has a chance to brunch with the CEO who needs a few stock tips from Commander Genital.....

But then the reality of codeshare and Valujet wages set in......
 
You forgot about the sundaes across the Atlantic.

On a side note, along with the upgrades on the Delta widebodies and lay flat seats, they have enlarged the cockpit door on the 767 so the Genital could get his over-inflated head in for his single flight to Darfur...or was it for his girth with so many sundaes? Anyway, it works either way.
 
Did anyone in the 5 pages bother to read the article? This was based on a survey of travel buyers and managers not buisness travelers themselves. The biggest issue according to the article seems to be that SWA doesn't book through Sabre and we won't slash prices for group sales.
I was a fractional pilot for 8 years. I flew random routing usually on a high fair ticket. If you can get it legacy First Class is a better product than SWA. Legacy mainline coach about the same inflight as SWA. The problem is for the lagacys that a huge amount of domestic flying is RJ. SWA is much better than RJs. Also SWA CSAs are much more empowered to fix things than the CSAs at other companys as a general rule.
 
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Ohh yeah sorry. Hope the mods don't see that since posting factual information is a violation of the TOS.
 
Ghetto,

PLEAAAAASE, stop injecting facts into a good SWA bashing thread.....fun killer


Yeah, the author of the story doesn't know what he/she is talking about. Only you do....(sore losers)


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Airtran had a pretty good 1st class (I jumpsat on it a few times), with the XM radio and nice flight attendants. You're right, that will be going away. I hope you do like the Delta 1st and business class, on most of the planes there is Wifi, and many of the 757s and 738s have TVs with dish network, which helps the time go by. The food up front is getting better, and I think inflight is working on getting a great product out there. Mergers take awhile to get everything the same. Frequent travellers deserve the perks, and I think more is on the way. Thanks for the comments.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I need to go to New York from Atlanta. Do you think the service and food is better on Delta or Song?
 
This is what really counts. General Cheese will have a nice spin. But you can't argue with this honest information.

Southwest Customer Satisfaction:

http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/sth_west.htm

Delta Customer Satisfaction:

http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/delta.htm

Southwest is going to put a dent into Deltas's hometown. There is absolutely no doubt about that. That is why there is the sudden hate by the Delta trolls on this board.

It is that fundamental.
 
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I'm not so sure about the term "sudden"........

I remember asking my Delta buds in 93 what they thought about Valujet.....

To a man, they laughed and said "we will crush them!!..."

How many gates did Airtran have in ATL again?........
 
Yeah, the author of the story doesn't know what he/she is talking about. Only you do....(sore losers)


Bye Bye---General Lee



Ouch, coming from the biggest loser on FI, that really hurts. Sad part is you do not realize how pathetic you are.

I have always assumed your a special needs kid, trying to pass time, but I may be wrong. If you are I do apologize for my above statement. .
 
I have always assumed your a special needs kid, .

Well you finally joined Sacka and Lyinvixin on the SWA slimeball list. Well played.

Hopefully, should you ever reproduce, God will see fit to give you a special needs kid just for running your cakehole.
 
Well you finally joined Sacka and Lyinvixin on the SWA slimeball list. Well played.

Hopefully, should you ever reproduce, God will see fit to give you a special needs kid just for running your cakehole.

Not to mention he lacks 3rd grade English skills!!! :D
 
I agree with you. Slaquer is also very lazy. He has only flown a little over 500 hrs this year and has made over 300k already. He is your typical UT grad. They all make me sick. :)


Congratulations on your fat wallet AND your humility. Let me guess--you're incredibly good-looking too, right---a real hit with the ladies!
 
Congratulations on your fat wallet AND your humility. Let me guess--you're incredibly good-looking too, right---a real hit with the ladies!

not just the ladies, the guys love me to. :)

I could have my pick of about any sugar daddy I would want :)
 
To answer a few remarks:

CA1900
It's not that we don't hate the RJs (well maybe on runs longer than 3 hours). I have done my share of non-reving/deadheading/jumpseating like everyone else when I flew for the regionals. Been there done that...but a little room & some extra perks would be nice once in a while when you have to travel on business.

Sacha
I don't live or work in ATL (Virginia actually). Up until 5 years ago, I never really did business travel except for the above mentioned stuff.

Why Citrus for personal travel first & not Delta?
We live & fly out of cities where Southwest does not currently fly but Citrus does. Citrus is pulling out of PHF next year & SWA serves ORF but has no plans to go into PHF after the merger (makes sense with ORF/PHF only 15 miles apart). Citrus also flies out of RIC. No word from SWA yet on their plan for RIC. Having Citrus in both the RIC & PHF markets has been a huge benefit for air travelers. The competition has kept fares reasonable, service excellent & yes, the other carriers has matched prices.

For our personal needs, Citrus is the only carrier that provides nonstops in the PHF-BOS market that we frequent. The fares in the PHF-BOS market were much lower than flying out of RIC-BOS for a time UNTIL Jetblue started serving RIC-BOS. I’ll throw in a plug for Jetblue @ RIC. Another LCC that has helped to keep the fares low especially on the RIC-BOS market. Even without first class, we like from a passenger perspective B6’s all coach setup, especially on the E190 with its 2x2 seating, TV & XM. Conveniently living between RIC & PHF is an added bonus. Delta also serves both airports. Air Tran may serve us well in one market but Delta serves us better in another, ECP (vacation home #2). We fly to ECP 2-3 times a year & The Big D provides the better choice. We could fly to PNS on Citrus but have no where to park the “Beach Buggy” like we do @ ECP. WN goes to ECP but we would have to drive to either BWI (3 hours) or ORF (1.4 hours+) to get the cheaper fare but pay for gas to drive there which is out of the question per Mrs. Soprano. For us, plane size doesn’t really matter, but having first/business class can make all the difference for some travelers that can afford it like we can & choose to pay for.

On the business side…
Now that I fly corporate all over the planet, my company prefers we fly First/Business especially on the long hauls when deadheading or on biz travel. It’s their nickel, their policy. Their philosophy is it's a justified expense that makes their crews safer with less fatigue issues & maybe a little happier.

As for wifey, she frequents MSY, SAT, DFW, BOS & MCI in her work & equally flies between AAL, DAL & ATI. She likes Citrus. Why, I don’t know. Ask her… she’s a chick, not a pilot like me. Her company allows her to fly First/Business as one of her perks & they can afford it. FYI, her company uses NJI too, but for the really big dogs, not her. She has FF miles on all 3 carriers & has enough miles to go JFK-Pluto 5 round-trips first class on a 767-300 with the General as SIC.

But with the merger, a great airline will be phased out leaving business travelers with one less choice regardless if coach or first. In our circumstance, SWA is right now out of the equation when it comes to air travel by default in RIC. Even if SWA decides to stay in RIC post merger & offers low fares to ATL & beyond or serve other markets, then game on, sans First Class. Point is that there is still a demand for first/business class travel and the business market in coach is still there. SWA does it in one class on a 737 and most of the legacy carriers mix and match between regional and mainline equipment. It’s customers’ choice.

SWA is a good business model for what it does, but does it really serve the upper end of business travel and those who prefer 1st class? NO.

Does that answer the questions?
 
The guys love you to......what?

(Oh, this is waaay too easy..)
:p


Speaking of way too easy:

Wait... And THIS coming from the woman who mis-corrected someone on "desperate"? :)

Sorry... had to go there. I've been saving that one for weeks! Alright. I guess that's all I had; you can go back to being one of the more intelligent posters on this wholely inane forum.

Bubba
 
Speaking of way too easy:

Wait... And THIS coming from the woman who mis-corrected someone on "desperate"? :)

Sorry... had to go there. I've been saving that one for weeks! Alright. I guess that's all I had; you can go back to being one of the more intelligent posters on this wholely inane forum.

Bubba

Touche...and thank you! Of course I'm one of the more intelligent posters here. I is a wimen.:D
 

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