Disturbing Xmas letter from Republic CEO

[DashTrash400]

Plenty of people have been wiped out in large numbers in history by a-holes, it is going on today. To me that doesn't justify taking holy land from one group and handing it over to another group, it tends to piss people off when you force them out of their home. It is very cynical the way the christians want to help the jews so bad only bc they need the jews to occupy Israel for their messiah to come back and "get rid" of those who do not believe in him (ironically the jews would be in that category). Or mabye he is just comming back to "perfect" the jews like Ann Coulter says needs to happen. Bill Maher had a funny line about all this in his last season.

Wasn't trying to debate the actual point. I'm just saying that the support for Israel within the US has a lot more to do with the Holocaust and its aftermath than apocalyptic beliefs that some Christians hold. Keep in mind that rather few Holocaust survivors stayed in Europe afterward, there was a diaspora pretty evenly split between the US and Israel. Close ties were pretty inevitable, as was the survivors' influence on political opinion here.

 

[Axel]

In order to get to the weekly message, you need to access the company intranet, then click on the "weekly message" link, then click on another link to open the PDF.

Furthermore, it is not a "required reading" document.

It is not being forced on you. If you read it anyway you have done so voluntarily and with deliberate effort.

Zeemzda me that nothing is being inflicted on anyone. If you don't like the message, don't read the message. If you are offended that your CEO chooses to preach, find a different job.

 

[johnpeace]

I would rather work for an airline that sent me a Christmas message about Jesus than a New Years phone call about my furlough.

It's amazing what some of you people can come up with to be outraged about.

 

[contrail67]

Well, at least they don't print the actual text of the verses. It's just the chapter and verse printed there, and you have to go to your own Bible to see what it says. That's a little different than Bedford's maniacal preaching to his employees.

Dudes...when he was at Mesaba he put an article in the paper and was quoted saying people love flying turboprops....messed up as this article.

 

[McNugget]

As long as he can keep our company going in the direction its going, and the checks he signs that I cash twice a month aren't bouncing he can say or put a link to whatever he wants on our site.

For sure!

 

[cybourg10]

As long as he can keep our company going in the direction its going, and the checks he signs that I cash twice a month aren't bouncing he can say or put a link to whatever he wants on our site.

You have a right to receive paychecks for a job well done without being preached to about Jesus, Abraham, Mohamed, Buddha, etc.

 

[McNugget]

You have a right to receive paychecks for a job well done without being preached to about Jesus, Abraham, Mohamed, Buddha, etc.

Got a quote, from the Constitution?

 

[Flywrite]

1. The Beacon rocks. Five Guys is also good if you're not near SPA.

2. It's Hawking guys.

 

[Pilot124]

Just quit already bigbird....
You don't need to read it...I don't.

 

[Dubya]

If everything was made by god(s) who made god(s)? Don't worry I won't be screaming for Dawkins or asking for gods help. I'll be doing my job maintaining the safety and security of my passengers. Better than giving up and saying it's the "will of god"

Alls I'm asking a fellow co-worker to do is read. I'm sorry if I sound arrogant, but I do feel strongly about my opinions. Just as you do to. The religous system has stymied the education system since it's inception. The interesting concept of theory is you can strive (and should try) to disprove it. That's the beauty of science. Disprove Hawkings and Dawkins make you're own conclusions. What's most important is religous folks read books like those previously mentioned. Expand your horizons.

I'd much rather live life by asking questions than taking it on "faith" We're pilots we don't take anything on faith when it comes to our airplane. How many times have you been, on the line, in ground school and wanted to learn why something was working/malfunctioning on you plane?

I really don't think about this god concept during my average day. I live each momment in the now to the fullest. Religion/God isn't needed to accomplish this. In fact it hides the true beauty this place can show you.

Dubya, Mesabi Miner. Thanks for the conversation. I thrive on anything that makes you think. To all the guys that sent me private emails, thank you to. It's always nice to know others view life the same way I do.

I was trying to put you in a hopeless situation. The majority of people when faced with a hopeless situation will invoke some mention of God in some fashion or another.

I actually find myself searching for answers just as you do. It just seemed as though you were spouting them as proven fact rather than what they are...theory. It's difficult to come to a conclusion either way...IMHO. As you said, it's interesting to read about it from both viewpoints, but neither is conclusive beyond a doubt. This is all I was trying to point out. So don't be too sure that the evolution theory is just a given.

W

 

[hoover]

Really, somebody needs to file a hostile workplace complaint against this guy for his constant religious diatribes. And what denomination is he, anyway? Most Christian denominations don't recognize Sirach as being canonical.

You're right. How dare he subject his employees to a message of peace and hope at Christmas time. Sue the bastard!

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

You're right. How dare he subject his employees to a message of peace and hope at Christmas time. Sue the bastard!

Hoover you tool...there's a big difference between peace/hope and spouting off like a maniacal abortion-clinic attacker.

 

[cybourg10]

Got a quote, from the Constitution?

No but Berry vs. Dept of Social Services ruled that by not allowing Berry to (1) share his religious views with clients in his cubicle, (2) use a conference room for voluntary prayer meetings, and (3) display religious objects (a Bible and a religious sign) in his cubicle. Since this is not a christian nation we have rights to go to work without being subjected to a CEO's personal belief in how one should live their life. I'm sure most of you that have no problem with this would be screaming bloody murder if your CEO was Muslim.

 

[BoilerUP]

Freedom of religion is not the same as freedom from religion.

 

[PCL_128]

Freedom of religion is not the same as freedom from religion.

Agreed, but that has nothing to do with the work environment. When people go to work, they shouldn't be bombarded with other people's religious beliefs. If Mr. Bedford wants to go to church on Sunday, then more power to him. I encourage it. But he needs to keep it out of the work environment.

 

[Axel]

...I'm sure most of you that have no problem with this would be screaming bloody murder if your CEO was Muslim.

I am completely indifferent to it. Sometimes I click the link, sometimes I don't. I am comfortable enough with my own religious beliefs that I find no need to criticize others'. Matters not a whit whether it is Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Confucionism or FSM. Can you say the same or, (as is written in one of the many Holy Books) are you without sin and therefore qualified to throw the first stone?

As long as it is not a condition of employment that I become a practicing Catholic (or Muslim, or whatever), then BB can preach all he wants and I can choose to ignore it or take it to heart.

 

[trainer8]

Agreed, but that has nothing to do with the work environment. When people go to work, they shouldn't be bombarded with other people's religious beliefs. If Mr. Bedford wants to go to church on Sunday, then more power to him. I encourage it. But he needs to keep it out of the work environment.

What is so hard about this?

You don't have to read it; he warns you that he going to say something religious; he does it at Christmas and Easter; it's not required reading. It's an opine for the season. You don't have to read it!

...... move on....

Oh, did I say "you don't have to read it?" Ok...

T8

 

[trainer8]

No but Berry vs. Dept of Social Services ruled that by not allowing Berry to (1) share his religious views with clients in his cubicle, (2) use a conference room for voluntary prayer meetings, and (3) display religious objects (a Bible and a religious sign) in his cubicle. Since this is not a christian nation we have rights to go to work without being subjected to a CEO's personal belief in how one should live their life. I'm sure most of you that have no problem with this would be screaming bloody murder if your CEO was Muslim.

You need to do your homework. Berry vs. Dept of Social Services was a 9th Circuit CoA ruling on Tehama County Department of Social Services in the State of CA--a State/County run operation. The Courts could rule this way because of the Establishment Clause.

Nice try, but RAH doesn't count. Mr. Bedford is permitted, as I am, to carry my Bible, to say "God bless you," to post the Ten Commandments on his desk/wall/toilet, and give a homily to his employees if he wishes.

Move on...

T8

 

[barnyard]

Until Jesus Christ returns to clean house and wonders why the human race thought they could "do it alone."

Peace, my Friend.

MM

I don't understand... how could a human who existed (arguably) 2000 years ago, die, and come back to life? Retarded.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

PCL you loser. You're banned again, I see. Tell your god he FAILED.