Dirty Tricks From Whipsaw City, part 1

[BlueNose]

KR says, "Citation Air over 9 months by gradually transferring 19 of its aircraft to our fleet"

Which aircraft would those be beyond the Citation Xs? Would he introduce a new aircraft type like the Sovereign to the FO fleet?

Good luck to all involved!

I would guess the Xs to augment the FO X fleet, and the XLSs to replace the exiting Hawkers. The Sovereign is too close to the X in profile and would cannibalize customers, in my opinion, same with the CJ3s and the Phenoms. But that's all just a guess. You can bet he'll take the ones he can make the most money on.

Any CA guys who can tell us present fleet numbers?

 

[7on7Off]

Any CA guys who can tell us present fleet numbers?

I think we're down to 3 X's and maybe 12 XL/XLS

 

[Heavy Set]

Always terrible and shocking to the system when you get a layoff or a long wind-down. I've had a few myself. Can't sugar-coat it. That said, seems like the airlines are hiring quite a bit and there are some new charter operators that would likely appreciate the CS pilots and their experience (new Jet Aviation/Vistajet Global operation and Wheels Up).

Someone else on these boards mentioned that Spirit is hiring big time (evidently a couple of CS pilots have been hired recently) and upgrade can be as short as 2-3 years on the Airbus! If I were a current CS pilot I'd be sending my app out to Spirit, JB and the legacies pronto...

Just remember, when one door closes, other doors open. Stay positive. I wouldn't want to be on the bottom of the new Flexioptionshares Frankenstein company anyway - talk about being ripe for whipsawing...

 

[eagle06]

Spirit seems to have no problem with the fractional guys. I can think of nearly a dozen former Flight Options and Avantair guys here...

 

[Newkem]

It is hard for me to think about the idea that pilots employed by our competitors, who were not successful in the market place, would somehow get priority over our own group of furloughed pilots, who have been loyal to Flight Options and could now benefit from that loyalty.

Just think, those same Pilots who were "not successful in the marketplace" are going to be training your pilots. Aren't you afraid of the virus spreading? :blush:

As you know, one of the fundamental principles of Flight Options is to treat our employees as family and the time is quickly approaching when we will be able to help our family. I have been waiting and working for 5 years to get to this point.

Be careful who you entrust your family to. I heard there's a bunch of dirty old man perverts over there at Citationshares.

imp:



Ricci sounds like a first class PRICK to me.

 

[crashtest]

It's not your pilots that were unsuccessful, it's your damn management that was unsuccessful at shares.

 

[Aeronca123]

it's not your pilots that were unsuccessful, it's your damn management that was unsuccessful at shares.

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Safetycheck]

Stand By

Dear All Involved:

Stand By for the KY.

Will 1108 turn and burn the drive by signing and sodomize the CS brethren? Should know today.

Stock up on anusol, cause this one is gonna hurt. Then after the hosing, you gonna have to hang around and suck it for 6 months more while you train their family to screw you even harder.

Sound like an excrement sandwich that - lets face it - nobody has to hang around for.

I'd leave in a heartbeat and leave em hanging with pissed off customers and tired old airplanes that no one has the required minimum flight time to fly. Let those space cowboys figger it out fer themselves.

 

[jetwash]

Dear All Involved:

Sound like an excrement sandwich that - lets face it - nobody has to hang around for.

I'd leave in a heartbeat and leave em hanging with pissed off customers and tired old airplanes that no one has the required minimum flight time to fly. Let those space cowboys figger it out fer themselves.

Last time I checked the 1108 was not buying CS it was Ricci.
I don't recall the 1108 being called to the table and asked their opinion on what should be done.

As for the guys sticking around, I am sure all those who were able to go left a year and a half ago when Citation Air announced they were shutting down. Those who are left had a reason to stick around as long as they could.

It was not the 1108 who shut down CS it was their own management. Now the the vultures are just picking at the remains.

 

[Newkem]

Dear All Involved:

Stand By for the KY.

Will 1108 turn and burn the drive by signing and sodomize the CS brethren? Should know today.

Stock up on anusol, cause this one is gonna hurt. Then after the hosing, you gonna have to hang around and suck it for 6 months more while you train their family to screw you even harder.

Sound like an excrement sandwich that - lets face it - nobody has to hang around for.

I'd leave in a heartbeat and leave em hanging with pissed off customers and tired old airplanes that no one has the required minimum flight time to fly. Let those space cowboys figger it out fer themselves.

Anger management!

 

[Newkem]

Last time I checked the 1108 was not buying CS it was Ricci.
I don't recall the 1108 being called to the table and asked their opinion on what should be done.

As for the guys sticking around, I am sure all those who were able to go left a year and a half ago when Citation Air announced they were shutting down. Those who are left had a reason to stick around as long as they could.

It was not the 1108 who shut down CS it was their own management. Now the the vultures are just picking at the remains.

Anger management!

 

[Newkem]

Hey if my pay was going to be cut by 50% for the last six months of my employment ID be a pissed off too - feel sorry for you guys.

They could cut your pay take your 401(k) match cancel your vacation or pay you by the hour for that matter.

They have to pay for those tacky green and gold new paint job somehow.

 

[jetwash]

IBT says NO

It looks like the IBT 1108 said NO to the proposal from Flight Options management to the deal offered to take the aircraft from CS and leave the pilots behind.

 

[Newkem]

Is this exactly what Kenn-with-two-nn's wanted? I'll bet he's ready to dig those big white oversized chompers into his next victims.

 

[jetwash]

IBT 1108 Union lawyers say that that McCaskill-Bond would apply so no deal without pilot integration.

Now FO management has to decide to do the deal with Citation and take the pilots as well as the aircraft.