Dirty Tricks From Whipsaw City, part 1

[crashtest]

It's not your pilots that were unsuccessful, it's your damn management that was unsuccessful at shares.

 

[Aeronca123]

it's not your pilots that were unsuccessful, it's your damn management that was unsuccessful at shares.

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Safetycheck]

Stand By

Dear All Involved:

Stand By for the KY.

Will 1108 turn and burn the drive by signing and sodomize the CS brethren? Should know today.

Stock up on anusol, cause this one is gonna hurt. Then after the hosing, you gonna have to hang around and suck it for 6 months more while you train their family to screw you even harder.

Sound like an excrement sandwich that - lets face it - nobody has to hang around for.

I'd leave in a heartbeat and leave em hanging with pissed off customers and tired old airplanes that no one has the required minimum flight time to fly. Let those space cowboys figger it out fer themselves.

 

[jetwash]

Dear All Involved:

Sound like an excrement sandwich that - lets face it - nobody has to hang around for.

I'd leave in a heartbeat and leave em hanging with pissed off customers and tired old airplanes that no one has the required minimum flight time to fly. Let those space cowboys figger it out fer themselves.

Last time I checked the 1108 was not buying CS it was Ricci.
I don't recall the 1108 being called to the table and asked their opinion on what should be done.

As for the guys sticking around, I am sure all those who were able to go left a year and a half ago when Citation Air announced they were shutting down. Those who are left had a reason to stick around as long as they could.

It was not the 1108 who shut down CS it was their own management. Now the the vultures are just picking at the remains.

 

[Newkem]

Dear All Involved:

Stand By for the KY.

Will 1108 turn and burn the drive by signing and sodomize the CS brethren? Should know today.

Stock up on anusol, cause this one is gonna hurt. Then after the hosing, you gonna have to hang around and suck it for 6 months more while you train their family to screw you even harder.

Sound like an excrement sandwich that - lets face it - nobody has to hang around for.

I'd leave in a heartbeat and leave em hanging with pissed off customers and tired old airplanes that no one has the required minimum flight time to fly. Let those space cowboys figger it out fer themselves.

Anger management!

 

[Newkem]

Last time I checked the 1108 was not buying CS it was Ricci.
I don't recall the 1108 being called to the table and asked their opinion on what should be done.

As for the guys sticking around, I am sure all those who were able to go left a year and a half ago when Citation Air announced they were shutting down. Those who are left had a reason to stick around as long as they could.

It was not the 1108 who shut down CS it was their own management. Now the the vultures are just picking at the remains.

Anger management!

 

[Newkem]

Hey if my pay was going to be cut by 50% for the last six months of my employment ID be a pissed off too - feel sorry for you guys.

They could cut your pay take your 401(k) match cancel your vacation or pay you by the hour for that matter.

They have to pay for those tacky green and gold new paint job somehow.

 

[jetwash]

IBT says NO

It looks like the IBT 1108 said NO to the proposal from Flight Options management to the deal offered to take the aircraft from CS and leave the pilots behind.

 

[Newkem]

Is this exactly what Kenn-with-two-nn's wanted? I'll bet he's ready to dig those big white oversized chompers into his next victims.

 

[jetwash]

IBT 1108 Union lawyers say that that McCaskill-Bond would apply so no deal without pilot integration.

Now FO management has to decide to do the deal with Citation and take the pilots as well as the aircraft.

 

[SDCFI]

So can DAC buy the CA airplanes/contracts and give them to Flexjet instead? Not saying I want this to happen just wondering if that's going to be the next move by KR.

 

[jetwash]

So can DAC buy the CA airplanes/contracts and give them to Flexjet instead? Not saying I want this to happen just wondering if that's going to be the next move by KR.

Probably not because the IBT 1108 has contract language that states that if DAC buys any other air carrier that does fractional flying it has to be done by IBT1108 pilots. So eventually a merger of the lists will occur in our big happy "family".

 

[BE40Driver]

1108

Looks like CA will be Avantair part 2 now.

 

[Newkem]

Looks like CA will be Avantair part 2 now.

Yea and you wil be stuck preflighting your flops b.j.per the thread below with no hopes of transitioning to the mighty citations anytime soon.

:bawling:

Hope your "family" has a nice weekend.

 

[Rupert.]

It looks like the IBT 1108 said NO to the proposal from Flight Options management to the deal offered to take the aircraft from CS and leave the pilots behind.

And I pay dues why? We just left 85 furloughed pilots on the street. I see a de-cert vote in the near future.

 

[ProFracPilot]

And I pay dues why? We just left 85 furloughed pilots on the street. I see a de-cert vote in the near future.

Hey! It wasn't the unions fault. They're just following the law.

They said.

 

[jetwash]

And I pay dues why? We just left 85 furloughed pilots on the street. I see a de-cert vote in the near future.

You really are a piece of work.

You show up on flight info in 2008 to push the POS offer from Flight Options management to accept a one page agreement when we had 50 pilots RIFed. Then you disappear for 5 years and show up now pissed that the IBT1108 didn't bite at Kenn's Trojen horse offer and pretend to care about the furloughed pilots.

Now you want a de-cert vote. I am willing to bet you are one of the management stooges that signed the petition to take the deal.

How about it are you "engine plug" or one of the pilot pushers from OCC? Or maybe the former pilot pusher that pushed just a little too much.

While this issue brought out a lot of emotions among the FO pilots in the end the union executives took the advice of the lawyers and used their heads.

 

[jetwash]

Double post

 

[chief9404]

And I pay dues why? We just left 85 furloughed pilots on the street. I see a de-cert vote in the near future.

It will never happen. Pilots may not be happy with everything about the 1108 but there still is a bigger lack of trust with mgt.

Im not sure many want to go back to the days of the 3am wake up calls or the intimidation when calling fatigue or sick.

 

[BobbyBiplane]

IBT 1108 Union lawyers say that that McCaskill-Bond would apply so no deal without pilot integration.

Now FO management has to decide to do the deal with Citation and take the pilots as well as the aircraft.

M-B does not apply if the aircraft are either returned to the leasing company (if any) or sold. Good luck, but hanging on to a listing ship is never a good idea, particularly when its keel is starting to show.

Bob