DELTA'S SCOPE RELIEF AND THE 717's?

[texman]

The bigger picture for us outsiders.

http://www.centreforaviation.com/an...n-check-through-717-deal-with-southwest-75314

 

[LearLove]

got scope?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/delta-air-lines-invests-in-grupo-aeromexico-2012-06-04

 

[titans10]

Old news I believe.

 

[RJ Bum]

hmmm where is Comair on that list??

 

[bladeusa]

Comair aircraft are listed under mainline operating fleet.
I assume because they own them they aren't listed the same as the other regional carriers.

 

[RJ Bum]

OK, then is the CMR arcraft limited by the TA? Just seems by that wording, they are not included under the cap...

 

[General Lee]

got scope?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/delta-air-lines-invests-in-grupo-aeromexico-2012-06-04

There was a similar investment in Brazilian airline GOL. No majority stake, just enough to have some influence in different parts of the world. Probably very smart. I don't see them flying any of our routes. We have more flights to Mexico by far than Aeromexico has to the US. And, we can't fly intra Mexico, but some business travellers probably want to. There you go.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

OK, then is the CMR arcraft limited by the TA? Just seems by that wording, they are not included under the cap...

IF the TA passes, then there will be only 125 50 seat RJs left by 2015. That includes Comair. There will be 102 70 seaters, and 223 76 seaters within 3 years, only if the 717s show up. The mainline ratio of domestic flying will go up and stay there too.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

So dumb general- the 50 seaters are gone anyway-

Get the -900's where they've always belonged

 

[whymeworry?]

I remember when CAL bought into COPA. We thought, oh good, an investment in a Cent Am carrier. Should be good for us in terms of developing new markets, right? Then we gave them 30+ NGs and watched as they hired retired CAL pilots into the left seat at $6,000/ mo. In the end they sold their share in COPA without the pilot's getting a penny from our lost flying and airframes.

Don't be fooled. That $65 million is your money. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, if you would rather get a contract where pay only starts upon aircraft movement then far be it from me to comment on your TA. Good luck with that. You're looking at far far less than a "19%" raise once you include all that lost time at the gate.